Israel bombs Iran - targeting Isfahan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Perhaps Israel shouldn’t have gotten Trump to blow up the Iran nuclear deal then.

The Iran nuclear deal was a joke. We all know that.

It worked. Iran stopped its nuclear program. And then it restarted when Trump scrapped it. Those are the facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

Somewhat superior, yes, when they aren't going on strike. What's your point? Israel cannot defeat Iran and isn't trying to.

[Anonymous]

Have we gotten any clarity on what really happened?

Was it missiles or quadcopters?

Is Iran covering up what happened or was it as minor as they say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel should stand on their own. They made their own bed and can now lie in it. No U.S. involvement, period. I’m sick and tired of dumping trillions into a s hole region no one in this country even cares about while our people don’t have healthcare, childcare, long term care and infrastructure is falling apart.

At least the Israelis have a chance at winning.

lol no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a pyscop and you are all falling for it. There were no missiles fired into Iran. They were drones. Iran intercepted the drones. They don’t seem to be launched from Israel. They were either launched for Iraq or from within Iran. Iran claims the latter. Biden probably “allowed” Israel to “retaliate” but made sure that the retaliation might have been a small one. You can all go to sleep now. WWIII has not begun.

It may be a psyop but why? Neither Iran nor Israelis youth want to fight wars against each other and both governments are record high in unpopularity

To test Iranian response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a pyscop and you are all falling for it. There were no missiles fired into Iran. They were drones. Iran intercepted the drones. They don’t seem to be launched from Israel. They were either launched for Iraq or from within Iran. Iran claims the latter. Biden probably “allowed” Israel to “retaliate” but made sure that the retaliation might have been a small one. You can all go to sleep now. WWIII has not begun.

It may be a psyop but why? Neither Iran nor Israelis youth want to fight wars against each other and both governments are record high in unpopularity

To test Iranian response.

Yes, and also to demonstrate deterrence capabilities (and willingness).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Perhaps Israel shouldn’t have gotten Trump to blow up the Iran nuclear deal then.

The Iran nuclear deal was a joke. We all know that.

Well no it was not. The breaking of the deal has pushed Iran to embrace Russia and China. We need Iran as an ally and that is what the long term goal of the US should be. Iran is such a more value potential ally given its resources, strategic location and people vs Israel. Israel is just a rogue protectorate who main contribution to the US is destabilizing the region and increasing gas prices. I am

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sad. Isfahan is a beautiful city. Luckily the city center is okay, but wtf, Bibi.

I hate to see where this goes if we don’t stand up to Israel.

Oh no. Iran might finally be free of their tyrannical government and the Iranian people can finally be free.

Have you not learned from Iraq and Afghanistan? What about ISIS and the Taliban is freeing? War only helps terrorism increase. When people lose their homes, their families, their livelihoods in an instant and school is interrupted or non existent due to war, what will these boys/men do? Who will they turn to ?

Are you suggesting one day they’ll just come to their senses? The reality is nothing will change without it and there is a possibility it could go the wrong way. I believe the Iranian people are ready unlike those in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I think you need your head examined. We barely have democracy here. Our lawmakers have been in office for 40+ years no term limits . Many were there before the Iranian Revolution/new government there.

Why can’t we leave well enough alone? Iran isn’t no dump. It’s a developed country . Why destroy it? If they want regime change, let them do it. It’s not our place or job to do it for them. We have our own problems.

How many wars will it take for us to learn? Our democracy is not something people aspire to and neither are our freedoms so just let it be

They are only in office for years because people keep voting for them. Unless you think the elections are rigged. Please go to Iraq if you think it’s so great there.

You don’t get it.

Our Senate and Congress are full of lawmakers who have served for 40+ years . There are no term limits. If our most powerful branch of government and the SC as well allows lifetime service, who are we to judge other countries for their decade long despots?

How long has Joe Biden been in Washington ? Longer than the Iranian government. He first served in the Senate in 1973.

[Anonymous]

Imagine if someone came and invaded us to get rid of Congress and the Senate and SC because it wasn’t “Democratic enough” because decades long wealthy bureaucrats /incumbents kept winning all the elections . We would be destabilized .

So why are we invading their governments and getting rid of the steady hand? It makes no sense yet we haven’t learned from the lessons of Iraq and Libya. Leave things alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

Somewhat superior, yes, when they aren't going on strike. What's your point? Israel cannot defeat Iran and isn't trying to.

It's not clear what you mean by "defeat Iran." But Israel has superior military technology and readiness compared to Iran and in a direct conflict, Israel would have a clear advantage. Given that Israel is being isolated and cornered, the only responsible thing for the Israeli government to do is strike hard at Iran. Iran just launched 350 missiles within Israel, after funding an operation to murder and kidnap thousands of Israelis. The government would be derelict of duty to "show restraint."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sad. Isfahan is a beautiful city. Luckily the city center is okay, but wtf, Bibi.

I hate to see where this goes if we don’t stand up to Israel.

Oh no. Iran might finally be free of their tyrannical government and the Iranian people can finally be free.

You'd think after blowing $3 trillion dollars, hundreds of thousands of deaths, and getting zero results in Afghanistan and Iraq that we would have learned that bombing people into democracy rarely works.

Ahhh 'murican FrEeDumB!!

+1000.

Blowing things up and killing people is the way to show others our pathway to liberation, freedom and democracy !

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:War changes a public.

It automatically causes a hard reset to conservatism and wanting war/revenge. Look at us after 9/11.

That’s a normal reaction to an attack. So should we just keep attacking the entire region just because Israel says we should?

Let them fight their own battles there. They don’t help us with our 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why should we help them?

How about it’s your only ally in a place of hatred and extremism towards America.

They only hate us because of you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if someone came and invaded us to get rid of Congress and the Senate and SC because it wasn’t “Democratic enough” because decades long wealthy bureaucrats /incumbents kept winning all the elections . We would be destabilized .

So why are we invading their governments and getting rid of the steady hand? It makes no sense yet we haven’t learned from the lessons of Iraq and Libya. Leave things alone

How is this relevant, though? Iran isn't attacking Israel or vice versa due to democracy issues.