Where do the B students go? This all seems insane. |
False. My kid got into 4 top 50 schools with 30 ACT, a 3.9 GPA and 3 AP classes. |
+1 OP, this is an anonymous site where people can troll to their hearts content. I realize that puts all posts into question, but if you're going to let any get to you - consider the majority. I'm one of the first responders to this post and I honestly believe if that poster wasn't trolling they didn't fully read your OP and see your note regarding T50s. |
Applicants from the same school are compared. AOs are assigned regions and should know what standard tracks are for a given school. |
Yes in top 100 she’ll be totally fine. Top 50 might be tougher but depends on if we are including SLACs, whether she does ED etc. I don’t think one AP is even make it break for any school except maybe UVA which I think has been very clear on this point and may use as a way to weed out apps from competitive in state HSs. People here like to scare too much. |
This is a good point. College admissions are so high pressure on high performing kids— who have highest possible rigor, 1500/34+ and panic that they might get an A- or B+. Even the highest rigor with amazing grades and test scores are lottery applicants for many T25 schools. It may be easier for some kids to blame being rejected from a school with a sub 10% acceptance rate on not taking one course than it is to accept that even the strongest applicants have no guarantees. It was just so much easier back in the day— when UNC was my safety (in state NC) and it never occurred to me that I wouldn’t get into Duke, Davison and Wake Forest (which I did). That was the college list. Now, all of these schools would be lottery given my stats back then. They were all lottery for my kids (although UNC was OOS for them) and they brought better scores and a lot more rigor to the table. Somethings gotta give here. Rather than generalizations, it would be interesting to hear from parents of kids with OP’s kids profile (sounds like 1350-1400 SAT, 4.0UW, decent ECs, strong but not highest rigor? Is that right OP?)— who applied this cycle or last cycle— not in 2020. Where did they land? (And give the specific school— VT Arts and Sciences and VT Engineering have different admissions profiles). OP— for your kid, I would consider an ED1, ED2 strategy that puts them at a high match/target (for UMC girl, 50% SATs/GPA). Try to apply to at least on rolling schools as soon as applications open. Apply EA where you can so you have an idea how admissions is going and whether you need to adjust in RD. Consider SLACs ranked below 20 or so, especially if you are full pay and your kid is undecided. And make sure she actually likes her likely and low target schools and would be okay attending them. Good luck— |
Technically that would mean it's in the top 8% of SAT scores but I agree with you that her score is not low. |
Nobody is saying your kid is lazy and do nothing. People are saying the college admissions landscape is brutal right now. But it sounds like you and your kid found a balanced path through HS that worked and she knows what she wants. So, she will certainly also find a similarly balanced path through college and accomplishes her goals. Honestly, current USNWR ranking are garbage. And PP is right. They don’t align well with selectivity. Focus less on “T50” or “T100” and more on schools that she likes (social and EC fits) that fit her academic profile (both in terms of strengths, and her GPA, rigor and test scores). If she has a balanced list of colleges she wants to attend, it’s very likely some with accept and some will reject and she’ll end up with a few good options for her. And if they work for her, the ranking, especially USNWR ranking, should be secondary— or tertiary. College #106 might be a better fit that College #63. And that’s fine. Unless you are focused on things like Pell grants, college #106 might even be a better school— all around and for her. Also, don’t overlook SLACs. At least consider whether a smaller school would be a good fit. They often do well with kids who are undecided and want RCS/college community involvement. |
There are not many B students. Most kids have a combination of As and Bs. Yesterday’s “B” students level down and take regular or Honors classes where they can achieve A’s. |
yes, that helped. Definitely wouldn't get into STEM majors like CS and eng with that GPA. |
Thank you for saying this. I posted up thread that I have seen many transcripts and students are getting into excellent colleges without top rigor. “Rigor” is a myth and it’s causing our kids so much stress. This may depend on school district and what the norm is, but in ours you do not need APs in all subject areas, you just don’t. |
CAPs honors would be a magnet level class, so they wouldn't take APUSH, but I would imagine many take the APUSH exams. My DC went to RMIB, and the US History class IB magnet students take is RMS US History, which is the a designated magnet level class, but pretty much all of these students take the APUSH exam. But, to OP's post, I would not worry all that much. If they have lots of other AP classes, I can't omitting APUSH is that big of a deal. |
95% of colleges aren’t very selective. They go to all but the 50 or so National U or 25 or so SLAC that DCUM obsesses about. If they work hard, they do well and get a good job. |
Being a blunt realist is not being a dick. |
Tulane ED may be feasible, but only if she goes test optional. This year the average test scores of enrolled students was SAT 1448 and ACT 33. Some parents are really out of touch with the college admissions landscape. |