St. Elmo’s Fire is a terrible movie with terrible characters

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Anonymous wrote:It is not very productive to judge a 1985 film with 2024 eyes.

The guy who made the film was hamstrung by the studio.

He wanted to make a movie about super privileged kids after graduating from a fancy college (Georgetown) whose primary goal was to get rich…and marry rich.

It was intentionally white.

The characters were intentionally jerky a-holes.

In fact, he wanted them to be even more jerky and screwed up.

It was a very 80s film in terms of capturing the self-centeredness and materialism.

Why did he want to make a movie about such a boring demographic?

Dunno - why did Bret Easton Ellis or Jay McEnerny

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Demi Moore had a bad drug problem right before they started filming. She was actually fired from the film until she got clean. The director was really pulling for her. That film probably saved her career and life.

No. You are confusing the character she played with real life. They were not one and the same.

I mean, that's what she wrote in her autobiography, but ok.

[Anonymous]

I was a teenager when the movie was filmed in Georgetown and some of it was filmed in a classmate's house. We would hang out across the street to watch on the weekends. We were obsessed with it then, but it was a pretty dumb movie.

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Anonymous wrote:That's why Lady Gaga's Edge of Glory always sounds like an 80s song to me - sax solo.

That’s the great Clarence Clemons in his final recorded performance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's why Lady Gaga's Edge of Glory always sounds like an 80s song to me - sax solo.

That’s the great Clarence Clemons in his final recorded performance.

Mind blown.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of the female actors back then would never have a career today- no appeal of any kind and not good actors- Mare, Molly, Ally- even Demi looked/acted and sounded like a bag. I was a few years younger than that whole group but I remember thinking how much more beautiful my older sister and her friends were than those actresses. And their clothes were normal 80s clothes- not the old person clothes like the actresses wore in the movies- and even off screen. Oh wait, I just remembered the Kristin Stewart thread- maybe they would still have careers.

If they could whisper, all those mediocre looking gals & their baggy clothes could be Billie Eyelash or whatever that untalented person’s name is.

Do you mean the person who just won an Academy Award for best song?

Yes, the one who can’t sing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of the female actors back then would never have a career today- no appeal of any kind and not good actors- Mare, Molly, Ally- even Demi looked/acted and sounded like a bag. I was a few years younger than that whole group but I remember thinking how much more beautiful my older sister and her friends were than those actresses. And their clothes were normal 80s clothes- not the old person clothes like the actresses wore in the movies- and even off screen. Oh wait, I just remembered the Kristin Stewart thread- maybe they would still have careers.

If they could whisper, all those mediocre looking gals & their baggy clothes could be Billie Eyelash or whatever that untalented person’s name is.

Even you don’t know what point you’re trying to make here

I know exactly the point. Someone decides a performer is great. Then all the lemmings are afraid to disagree & next thing you know the no-talent person is a superstar. See: Whoopi Goldberg, Adam Sandler, Leo DiCaprio etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of the female actors back then would never have a career today- no appeal of any kind and not good actors- Mare, Molly, Ally- even Demi looked/acted and sounded like a bag. I was a few years younger than that whole group but I remember thinking how much more beautiful my older sister and her friends were than those actresses. And their clothes were normal 80s clothes- not the old person clothes like the actresses wore in the movies- and even off screen. Oh wait, I just remembered the Kristin Stewart thread- maybe they would still have careers.

If they could whisper, all those mediocre looking gals & their baggy clothes could be Billie Eyelash or whatever that untalented person’s name is.

Even you don’t know what point you’re trying to make here

I know exactly the point. Someone decides a performer is great. Then all the lemmings are afraid to disagree & next thing you know the no-talent person is a superstar. See: Whoopi Goldberg, Adam Sandler, Leo DiCaprio etc.

But all three of these actors are great in their own way:
Whoopi is amazing at standup.
Adam Sandler rocked those songs on SNL.
Leo was sexy as hell in Titanic.

And those three extraordinary moments which had cultural resonance carried them through their careers. Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I remember about this movie is Demi Moore’s character trying to commit suicide by like…just leaving the windows open when it was cold outside.

Ha! I remember watching this as a kid and thinking it was so odd. They were all desperately pounding on the door-- I was like, girlfriend is not going to freeze to death in the next 5 minutes. Call the fire department FFS.

[Anonymous]

And another thing I remember is the end where Rob Lowe's character goes off and leaves his daughter, and he's all like, "She's better off without me" because he's a ramblin' musician man, can't be tied down. And this is supposed to be somehow noble or romantic? IDK. But even then I was like, "Damn, what a d*ck"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And another thing I remember is the end where Rob Lowe's character goes off and leaves his daughter, and he's all like, "She's better off without me" because he's a ramblin' musician man, can't be tied down. And this is supposed to be somehow noble or romantic? IDK. But even then I was like, "Damn, what a d*ck"

Nothing about his character fit the stereotypical G'town demographics. It's annoying unrealistic to even entertain the notion that he was ever even admitted there, then he gets his GF pregnant, did they meet in the lecture hall?

I do get and appreciate that they needed the school and it's identity to be a key focal point of the story. It's just too bad that lacrosse wasn't as popular then, because that's maybe the only scenario that Billy was going to ever be a Hoya.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of the female actors back then would never have a career today- no appeal of any kind and not good actors- Mare, Molly, Ally- even Demi looked/acted and sounded like a bag. I was a few years younger than that whole group but I remember thinking how much more beautiful my older sister and her friends were than those actresses. And their clothes were normal 80s clothes- not the old person clothes like the actresses wore in the movies- and even off screen. Oh wait, I just remembered the Kristin Stewart thread- maybe they would still have careers.

If they could whisper, all those mediocre looking gals & their baggy clothes could be Billie Eyelash or whatever that untalented person’s name is.

Do you mean the person who just won an Academy Award for best song?

Yes, the one who can’t sing.

She both wrote and sang the song that won the Oscar this year.

Her second Oscar.

How many Oscars has your “talent” won you?

Oh, that’s right. When you said “untalented,” you were looking in the mirror.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I remember about this movie is Demi Moore’s character trying to commit suicide by like…just leaving the windows open when it was cold outside.

Ha! I remember watching this as a kid and thinking it was so odd. They were all desperately pounding on the door-- I was like, girlfriend is not going to freeze to death in the next 5 minutes. Call the fire department FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems to make bad movies worse when they have a title that has no connection to the movie. It’s like the producer is rolling his eyes & saying “If I have to explain why THAT’S the title, perhaps you should go watch another Rambo movie.”

They literally talk about St. Elmo's Fire in the movie. It ties in perfectly to their stage in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I remember about this movie is Demi Moore’s character trying to commit suicide by like…just leaving the windows open when it was cold outside.

Ha! I remember watching this as a kid and thinking it was so odd. They were all desperately pounding on the door-- I was like, girlfriend is not going to freeze to death in the next 5 minutes. Call the fire department FFS.

Needed more time to let the curtains billow photogenically.