Yup. Now all the parents of these "gifted" kids who are too bored to do the work that they are asked to do will tell you that their lack of effort is the sign of their giftedness and the reason they should be in AAP. What they are missing is that by not requiring that their child complete work when it is due in the manner that the Teacher requires it be completed they are setting their child up for Fs on assignments and C/Bs in classes. Then the kid will complain about the Teacher and the parents will be all surprised that their gifted kid is not performing well in school and wonder what caused the issues. It doesn't matter that their kid is gifted/advanced/really smart, they need to learn to follow directions, complete tasks as assigned, and find ways to occupy their time when they are done that don't distract other kids. Gifted kids, or smart kids or advanced kids, scoring badly on GBRSs/HOPE scores are doing so not because they are too quiet and well behaved but because they are not demonstrating that they are gifted by not doing to work as it asked. If your kid is not following directions and completing work as asked then your kid is wrong. If you are not correcting said issue and are coddling them ("I know you can do it in your head, you are so smart, why should you have to write it down that way?") you are wrong. You are encouraging the development of bad habits that will bite your child in the butt when they are in more advanced classes. We spent first and second grade telling DS he had to show his work because the Teacher required it even if he could do it in his head. We spent fourth and fifth grade telling him he had to do ST Math because it was assigned regardless of how pointless it seemed. Assigned work is not optional, it has to be done otherwise you will not do as well in classes. In sixth grade his math competition teacher required homework turned in with all work shown and an explanation of why students choose to solve it the way that they did. DS had reached a point where he could see that there were multiple solutions and that showing his work and explaining his methodology made sense. The years that his Teacher made him write out answers and explain how he got those answers finally made sense to him even when the solution was obvious. We are working on being neater with his answers. We showed him documentaries from the IMO to drive home the point the runners need to be able to clearly show that a choice to solve in a particular manner was made and how the answer progressed in order to maximize points for questions. The competitors whose work was messier had a harder time getting the extra point or two then the competitors whose work was neater and showed a progression. His mark for showing his work, which his math Teacher in 6th actually scores, has gone from meets expectations to exceeds expectations because he sees the importance. |
I would struggle to help my child with his math in sixth grade. I am not strong in math and it has been 40 years since I studied what he is studying. I would either need to spend hours relearning the subject and trying to explain what I have learned to my child or I could get a tutor. The good news is my DH works in a math related field and can help DS with his math if he has questions. That said, DH is having to brush up the work that is being covered because his work doesn't focus on those concepts. Because DH is math oriented, he can read a website and remember the concept well enough to be able to help. There are a lot of families that have 2 parents like me who would not be able to help their kids with their math homework. That is why people get tutors or use programs. They want to help their kids but they don't have the base skills to do so or it would take a good amount of time to brush up on those skills. Then there are the parents who could help but whose kids learn differently so the parents cannot explain the concept in a way that makes sense to the child. |
How are the full-time working parents with three kids managing to find time to pick up/drop off, visit grocery stores, prepare meals that kids prefer, launder kids' clothes, play tic-tac-toe, watch favorite TV shows along with kids, drive them to restaurants, drive to games, and a million other activities for their kids, but can't find time to ensure their kids do their homework? And instead dump that specific part of their parenting responsibility on the no-cost public school teacher? |
I don't think you can lable those parents "lazy and irresponsbile", if they did all those thing you alleged, right? |
You are being a great parent facilitating resources for your kids educational needs, but even more interesting is you are having DH brush up his math skills. ![]() |
The point is if two parents find it overwhelming to ensure their child completes their math homework, it's unreasonable to expect a single public school teacher to compensate for upto two dozen ill-prepared students who arrive at their class without completing math homework and extra practice, as needed. Whether a child is gifted or not, it's the parents' responsibility to prep them in math lesson already taught by providing sufficient math practice at home or through external tutor/enrichment. Irresponsible parents are those who believe their child is so gifted that they don't need to practice math at home and then unfairly blame the public school teacher when grades suffer. Mastery of math requires prepping beyond the limited classroom time, and it's up to the parents to facilitate this. |
The trick to acing the HOPE is... *checks notes*... having your student consistently display in the classroom those behaviors which the HOPE scale measures (and excelling beyond grade level in the named content areas). |
that's why it's so important that these kids get identified, especially if they're underperforming due to their academically unchallenging environment |
Because they're doing those million other things. And if teaching isn't the responsibility of the teacher, what is? |
A math teacher's role is to deliver a math lesson to your child. To ensure this happens effectively, it's important for you as a parent to be responsible and "prep" your child by ensuring they complete their homework in previous lesson and brush up on the prerequisites (practice additionally, as needed). Are you actively doing that outside the classroom prepping to avoid poor grades? |
The term “prep” has taken on a rather broad definition in this thread. My kids do all their work and study for tests at school, for the most part. Unfortunately, they rarely have homework or get work returned to bring home. They also have no textbooks, so half the time I have no idea what they’re learning, especially my 6th grader. |
Homework amount and duration is limited by school policy. If parents have no idea about child's homework content, then help them be prepared for next lesson using afterscool enrichment service or if you are rich get a tutor. |
I play to my families strengths. I help with reading and social studies questions. DH loves math and it takes him about 5 minutes to remember the concepts he needs to help with. DH now teaches the math club at school and does math competitions with DS for fun. Work with what you got! But i understand people who use tutors and programs, not everyone is able to help at home. It is not being lazy. |
I don’t need to. My kid is acing the tests and finishing homework at school. For the kids struggling, it would be nice, teacher, if you all returned the work in a timely manner and sent home some worksheets w lesson content, since we have no textbooks. |
If a 2nd grader "Is sensitive to larger or deeper issues of human concern", that's horrible. Being hypocritical at such young age? |