+1. There are around 50 million people in slavery TODAY. |
Ding, ding, ding! Once the dinosaurs clear out, someone will eventually combine the best of right and left and force a major realignment. Will that be the Dems, Reps or someone else? |
There’s perception and then there’s reality. For example, in the UK 35% of doctors and 28% of nurses are now another nationality. Sure immigrants (controlled) have probably increased demand a bit but in actual fact they are more part of the solution. The problems are multifaceted (underinvestment by the Tory government, ageing of the population, etc) but it’s easier to look for someone to blame. Similarly, in the UK there’s a stir about international students taking away university spots from domestic students. But the reality is that without international student fees, universities would probably close or reduce numbers. Brexit is a prime example of how perceptions can be wrong and easily manipulated. |
Wrong. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of supply and demand? The cause of housing shortages across Europe is multi-factorial and suggesting it is only due to rich foreigners in Lisbon is a lie. https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/86571/1/sercdp0223.pdf https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/tent-dwelling-migrants-join-protest-over-portugals-housing-prices-2023-09-30/ |
This conversation has nothing to do with Brexit. Conservatives in the UK concerned about university spots are a small minority. The larger concerns are over changing crime patterns. |
Not true at all. China didn't even ban slavery until the 20th century! |
I am not in favor of this term. I respect all people and I have a decent number of gay friends. However, if you talk to parents who are living through these times, you will get silence, forward leaning-listening and sometimes silent nods. If you are not a parent of a pre teen and teens, it’s really hard to understand this phenomenon right now. What this person is saying is heart-felt even thought their language is off putting. is this enough to move votes, doubt it. But older millennial and gen x parents are feeling these shifts. |
| If a party is getting 20-30% or more of the vote, it’s not really “far right”, is it? More like the definition of what constitutes mainstream politics needs to be redefined. |
What changing crime patterns? |
This is rextreme. Reframing this concerns as “Human recognition” is extreme. This reframing shuts down dialogue by assuming arguments that are not present. This is Worse case scenario framing and “disaster thinking” as psychologists call. It shuts down conversation. Both sides can do this and it’s tiresome. |
| -catastrophic thinking. It can be obsessive. Driven mostly by fear. |
PP’s post didn’t say it wasn’t due to supply and demand or that it wasn’t multi-factorial. Obviously foreign buyers drive up demand and transitioning rental properties to Airbnb reduces supply. One of the articles you linked explicitly states it’s partly due to “gentrification and record tourism.” |
PP explicitly said it was not multi factorial. |
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https://www.euronews.com/business/2023/07/04/are-short-term-rentals-the-cause-of-portos-housing-crisis
Recent article discussing Porto’s housing crisis. Long story short: airbnbs and foreign nationals. Prompted a big protest in 2023. The housing crisis is real, not imagined. PS - I was there in 2019 and the locals were very vocal about the crisis even then. Fwiw, I don’t think foreign nationals should be able to own real estate. If they must, then there should be heavy front-end fees (like Grand Cayman has/had? Upwards of $1M to have the privilege of buying real estate in the country. And I don’t think people should be able to own countless properties…even citizens. One primary residence, one vacation property, and perhaps a third. That’s it. We have citizens and foreigners who own dozens upon dozens of properties not to mention corporations (both foreign and domestic). It’s a problem. |
I certainly didn’t mean that. But I sense you are perhaps defensive since I hit a nerve? Are you a regular Airbnb user? I’m baffled by how many public interest/social justice activists I know IRL who get really defensive when I point out the negative impact of airbnbs and the overall commoditization of housing. It’s not good. And it’s real, not just a perception. |