Finding targets and likelies

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a lot bigger than you want, but Indiana would be a good safety. Tulane would be a good target. It is the right size, in a city and has a great vibe.

Does anyone read? They mention "under 8K undergrad" That is not Indiana

We’re in an environment where admissions are increasingly unpredictable for all smaller schools with national reputations. For safeties it really seems like you have to go bigger or go to regional schools. And a lot of people who say they want under 8k undergrad would actually prefer IU to UMW.

Lots between IU and UMW. Pick any of the Top 10 Jesuit schools (that have acceptance rates over 35-40%)......Marquette, Gonzaga, Santa Clara, Fordham, Loyola Marymount, Fairfield, any of the Loyolas, etc. That's just for starters....and religion doesn't matter, many of these are not "overly religious"---I know we are not religious and kid picked from several as they wanted under 8K and good schools that care about them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she is willing to consider women's colleges, I would definitely add Bryn Mawr and Scripps to your list. Both excellent, easy access to urban offerings, part of great consortiums, and the ability to pay full cost would give a bit of a bump in application process. My daughter was initially reluctant to consider women's colleges but she ended up applying to several and especially loved Bryn Mawr. Good luck and you are wise to be thinking about putting together a balanced list of schools. If you can afford it, might be good idea to pay for a few sessions with a private college counselor to really hone your list.

Coming here to say the same thing. Smith is really strong in STEM and Northampton scratches the itch for urban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are women’s colleges a consideration?
Bryn mawr and Scripps seem a great match

Bryn Mawr seemed nice, but it isn't urban. You can take the train to Philly though.

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Those are great stats so I wouldn’t rule out other top schools!

[Anonymous]

This is a hard question! Your kid has such high stats but it’s hard to find true safeties/likelies (which for a really high stats kid like yours, I’m defining a safety as 30+% acceptance rate) that are also meeting the other requirements you have (urban setting, under 8,000, in the North). I think Macalester is one of the best recommendations you’ve gotten. Most schools that are smaller, well regarded and urban are much harder to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:Having trouble figuring out targets / likelies since everything is so competitive these days …things that were once safeties are no more

Also we are not instate for MD or DC so those options are out

What do you think would be targets or likelies for 4.0 UW, 4.6+ Weighted, 1550+ SAT, excellent ECs, will have around 11 or more APs w 5s so far

Looking for
- midsize or smaller school (maybe 8,000 or fewer under grads)
- likes an actual defined campus
- prefers urban or urban adjacent locations
- prefers collaborative vs competitive environment
- they like an intellectual vibe but also want an engaged student population that is involved in a lot of activities
- has a few academic interests - so wants STEM and humanities
- open on geography - except not really into the south -eg, no FL, Tx
-would be full pay and can do it
- not athlete , not URM
- do have legacy at one T25, which they will apply to

It seems like most schools are reaches now and it’s hard to interpret much from our small school’s SCOIR data since often there aren’t a lot of data points or the data is old

Create an account on CollegeVine and start filtering from there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for all the great responses

Some of these she’s looked at / been thinking about

- PiTT is on the list

- GW felt not campus-y enough but we weren’t on an official tour so maybe we missed something ? Otherwise loves DC

- Macalester felt like it maybe didn’t have as much STEM emphasis?

Will be a NMSF so I feel like USC and Fordham like that but I don’t know much about Fordham for STEM and I think she is on the fence about NYC for college

I wish Rice was in a different location- she really isn’t interested in TX

Brandeis.

Wellesley.

Mount Holyoke or Smith.

Case Western.

+1
Case Western immediately came to my mind as well when reading the OP. It is an urban school with a clearly defined campus. It actually is in a corner of Cleveland that is really culturally rich with lots of museums, green space, a lagoon and Little Italy. Case checks off a lot of OP's boxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for all the great responses

Some of these she’s looked at / been thinking about

- PiTT is on the list

- GW felt not campus-y enough but we weren’t on an official tour so maybe we missed something ? Otherwise loves DC

- Macalester felt like it maybe didn’t have as much STEM emphasis?

Will be a NMSF so I feel like USC and Fordham like that but I don’t know much about Fordham for STEM and I think she is on the fence about NYC for college

I wish Rice was in a different location- she really isn’t interested in TX

Brandeis.

Wellesley.

Mount Holyoke or Smith.

Case Western.

+1
Case Western immediately came to my mind as well when reading the OP. It is an urban school with a clearly defined campus. It actually is in a corner of Cleveland that is really culturally rich with lots of museums, green space, a lagoon and Little Italy. Case checks off a lot of OP's boxes.

just adding that Case does value demonstrated interest so keep that in mind if applying

[Anonymous]

There’s are some crazy suggestions! This kid can shoot much higher than college of Charleston and Belmont (both in the south btw)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having trouble figuring out targets / likelies since everything is so competitive these days …things that were once safeties are no more

Also we are not instate for MD or DC so those options are out

What do you think would be targets or likelies for 4.0 UW, 4.6+ Weighted, 1550+ SAT, excellent ECs, will have around 11 or more APs w 5s so far

Looking for
- midsize or smaller school (maybe 8,000 or fewer under grads)
- likes an actual defined campus
- prefers urban or urban adjacent locations
- prefers collaborative vs competitive environment
- they like an intellectual vibe but also want an engaged student population that is involved in a lot of activities
- has a few academic interests - so wants STEM and humanities
- open on geography - except not really into the south -eg, no FL, Tx
-would be full pay and can do it
- not athlete , not URM
- do have legacy at one T25, which they will apply to

It seems like most schools are reaches now and it’s hard to interpret much from our small school’s SCOIR data since often there aren’t a lot of data points or the data is old

Male or female? If female in STEM - UVA.

[Anonymous]

What about Occidental for a safety?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having trouble figuring out targets / likelies since everything is so competitive these days …things that were once safeties are no more

Also we are not instate for MD or DC so those options are out

What do you think would be targets or likelies for 4.0 UW, 4.6+ Weighted, 1550+ SAT, excellent ECs, will have around 11 or more APs w 5s so far

Looking for
- midsize or smaller school (maybe 8,000 or fewer under grads)
- likes an actual defined campus
- prefers urban or urban adjacent locations
- prefers collaborative vs competitive environment
- they like an intellectual vibe but also want an engaged student population that is involved in a lot of activities
- has a few academic interests - so wants STEM and humanities
- open on geography - except not really into the south -eg, no FL, Tx
-would be full pay and can do it
- not athlete , not URM
- do have legacy at one T25, which they will apply to

It seems like most schools are reaches now and it’s hard to interpret much from our small school’s SCOIR data since often there aren’t a lot of data points or the data is old

Swarthmore seems like a very good fit against the criteria. And even though Swat is selective (1 out of 14 overall acceptance rate), the probability of acceptance with these stats, which are very good, will jump up in my estimation to 1 out of 3.