Finding targets and likelies

[Anonymous]

I like the suggestion of Tulane as target based on stats and some of your student’s criteria. Loyola New Orleans is around the corner and could be a safety.

Clark also an excellent suggestion.

It’s in the south but if Nashville appeals, Belmont University is beautiful traditional campus in an urban city.

What about Drew University in NJ? It’s a 45 minute train ride into NYC.

If open to Midwest, I think Oberlin and Kenyon could be targets.

[Anonymous]

It's annoying that people keep recommending schools in the south when OP already said that's a no.

[Anonymous]

Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are you in-state? Helps to know. (You just said not DC or MD so wasn’t sure if that meant VA or if you’re in another part of the country.

+1 Start with your in-state options to find targets and likelies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having trouble figuring out targets / likelies since everything is so competitive these days …things that were once safeties are no more

Also we are not instate for MD or DC so those options are out

What do you think would be targets or likelies for 4.0 UW, 4.6+ Weighted, 1550+ SAT, excellent ECs, will have around 11 or more APs w 5s so far

Looking for
- midsize or smaller school (maybe 8,000 or fewer under grads)
- likes an actual defined campus
- prefers urban or urban adjacent locations
- prefers collaborative vs competitive environment
- they like an intellectual vibe but also want an engaged student population that is involved in a lot of activities
- has a few academic interests - so wants STEM and humanities
- open on geography - except not really into the south -eg, no FL, Tx
-would be full pay and can do it
- not athlete , not URM
- do have legacy at one T25, which they will apply to

It seems like most schools are reaches now and it’s hard to interpret much from our small school’s SCOIR data since often there aren’t a lot of data points or the data is old

Northwestern or WashU/Vanderbilt ED/ED2

Those are reaches for all, no matter how high the stats. I think OP was looking for targets and safeties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

Urban adjacent small safety schools with a defined campus are few and far between and OP never shared what state they’re in. Hard to find schools that meet all those criteria: safety, small, defined campus, urban adjacent. I think OP’s kid has much better options but it will be hard to check all those boxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's annoying that people keep recommending schools in the south when OP already said that's a no.

OP said “not really into the south” and only said no TX or FL. Since it’s going to be hard to find schools that meet all the stated criteria, people are throwing out some other suggestions and ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for all the great responses

Some of these she’s looked at / been thinking about

- PiTT is on the list

- GW felt not campus-y enough but we weren’t on an official tour so maybe we missed something ? Otherwise loves DC

- Macalester felt like it maybe didn’t have as much STEM emphasis?

Will be a NMSF so I feel like USC and Fordham like that but I don’t know much about Fordham for STEM and I think she is on the fence about NYC for college

I wish Rice was in a different location- she really isn’t interested in TX

Brandeis.

Wellesley.

Mount Holyoke or Smith.

Case Western.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like the suggestion of Tulane as target based on stats and some of your student’s criteria. Loyola New Orleans is around the corner and could be a safety.

Clark also an excellent suggestion.

It’s in the south but if Nashville appeals, Belmont University is beautiful traditional campus in an urban city.

What about Drew University in NJ? It’s a 45 minute train ride into NYC.

If open to Midwest, I think Oberlin and Kenyon could be targets.

OP’s kid doesn’t want to be in the south.1/2 the schools you listed are in the South. Also, why would such a high stats kid be considering Belmont and not Vanderbilt if they were interested in going to school in the south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Most of these are not urban or urban adjacent, as requested by OP. Charleston and Belmont are city schools. Clearly, not all suggestions will hit every mark.

The person who suggested Belmont as a safety also mentioned Oberlin and Kenyon, like you. It’s just brainstorming ideas.

[Anonymous]

Are you in Virginia? William & Mary would be an excellent target, though it’s not urban or urban adjacent, as requested. Checks almost every other box though. What about University of Richmond?