Finding targets and likelies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Half your suggestions are surrounded by corn fields when OP requested urban city!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Half your suggestions are surrounded by corn fields when OP requested urban city!

Alright fair enough but to me a kid w 1550 won’t be happy a school like Belmont.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Half your suggestions are surrounded by corn fields when OP requested urban city!

Alright fair enough but to me a kid w 1550 won’t be happy a school like Belmont.

Not Bc they couldn’t get a good education there but because they will be surrounded by peers who are average -below average when they are way above average themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Half your suggestions are surrounded by corn fields when OP requested urban city!

Alright fair enough but to me a kid w 1550 won’t be happy a school like Belmont.

Not Bc they couldn’t get a good education there but because they will be surrounded by peers who are average -below average when they are way above average themselves.

No skin in the game here - but I feel you underestimate the students at schools that aren’t “top” by your definition. Rankings do not give the end all be all picture of the intellectual capabilities of students at so many schools. Lots of smart hard working kids everywhere. A LOT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Half your suggestions are surrounded by corn fields when OP requested urban city!

Alright fair enough but to me a kid w 1550 won’t be happy a school like Belmont.

Not Bc they couldn’t get a good education there but because they will be surrounded by peers who are average -below average when they are way above average themselves.

No skin in the game here - but I feel you underestimate the students at schools that aren’t “top” by your definition. Rankings do not give the end all be all picture of the intellectual capabilities of students at so many schools. Lots of smart hard working kids everywhere. A LOT[/quote]

DP. Enough of this sh**. A perfectly fine education is one thing and a student body with majority high intellectual capabilities is another. Belmont’s CDS indicates that ONLY 13% of the entering class has a score between 1400-1600. Let’s assume even fewer, half that number have a 1500-1600. That’s 6% of the class that operates at the calibre of OP’s student. That’s only 100 students. It is not a good match and sh*tty recommendation. You people are NUTS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Possible targets:
Loyola Maryland
Fordham
SUNY Binghamton (larger)

Safety:
Marquette (a bit larger)

Those parameters are a little tough esp the 8k range

Loyola & Binghamton don’t seem at all what OP’s kid wants. Not sure if you read her list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do 4.0/1550 kids really end up at Belmont or Drew because of lack of better options?

I can see choosing these schools for specific programs or scholarships dollars or vicinity to home or any number of reasons but....are there really kids who end up there simply because they're a target school and they don't get in anywhere else?

No they don’t. Posters on these boards pulling ideas out of their a$$

It’s so annoying. This is a high stats kid who should be looking at top colleges and people are suggesting “less competitive” or “second rung” state schools and places like college of Charleston or Belmont. OP said nothing about looking for a less competitive school and why would she when her daughters stats are so high.

What are your suggestions for true targets and safeties? This was OP’s question. Not reaches. Thoughts?

St Olaf
Oberlin
Kenyon
Franklin & Marshall
Bard
Bryn Mawr
College of Wooster

Colleges that have a little prestige and are more selective than Belmont (96% accepted) or college of Charleston (76% accepted) or university of Minnesota (75% accepted) and Belmont avg SAT score is 1200. That should NOT be on OP’s list even if she likes the south.

Completely agree. So many ridiculous suggestions.

[Anonymous]

I came here to write Santa Clara, but saw several others beat me to it. On the upswing from regional to national, small class sizes, and the kids we know who have attended have had incredible experiences as well as success in work/grad school options.

[Anonymous]

Smaller schools in urban areas to consider:

Sarah Lawrence
Occidental
Brandeis
University of San Francisco (high chance for merit)
College of Charleston (good chance of merit)

[Anonymous]

If she is willing to consider women's colleges, I would definitely add Bryn Mawr and Scripps to your list. Both excellent, easy access to urban offerings, part of great consortiums, and the ability to pay full cost would give a bit of a bump in application process. My daughter was initially reluctant to consider women's colleges but she ended up applying to several and especially loved Bryn Mawr. Good luck and you are wise to be thinking about putting together a balanced list of schools. If you can afford it, might be good idea to pay for a few sessions with a private college counselor to really hone your list.

[Anonymous]

Similar list to our kid last year. Will add that once we started doing visits, they realized they didn't want to be quite so urban. They also discovered that West Coast felt too far from home. Definitely start visiting now and list may change in next six months as they get more clarity on what feels right for them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Smaller schools in urban areas to consider:

Sarah Lawrence
Occidental
Brandeis
University of San Francisco (high chance for merit)
College of Charleston (good chance of merit)

Ridiculous recommendation. Only 6% of incoming class has a 1400-1600.
Why would a 1550 kid want to be surrounded by peers who never saw a single AP class?!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I came here to write Santa Clara, but saw several others beat me to it. On the upswing from regional to national, small class sizes, and the kids we know who have attended have had incredible experiences as well as success in work/grad school options.

Yup, my ‘21 kid with similar stats used Santa Clara as a safety.
Even though dcum screamed up and down that “no place is a safety anymore” and “Santa clara has only 32% acceptance rating so that is not guaranteed enough.”
The play for high stats kids is different and you don’t need to go below the T75 in creating the full college list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Smaller schools in urban areas to consider:

Sarah Lawrence
Occidental
Brandeis
University of San Francisco (high chance for merit)
College of Charleston (good chance of merit)

Ridiculous recommendation. Only 6% of incoming class has a 1400-1600.
Why would a 1550 kid want to be surrounded by peers who never saw a single AP class?!!!

Love your friendly supportive response. Ugh. The anonymous aspect of this board brings out the absolute worst in people.

I added it because their honors dorm and honors program is actually worth considering as a safety school. Our son had similar stats, won large scholarship and went down for a visit. He and my husband were pleasantly surprised by the quality of the honors students, the professors, and interesting internship/research possibilities. Very friendly, engaged, but not competitive cut-throat student community.The bigger downside of this suggestion is the southern location but it is a campus in middle of a smaller city so I tossed it in as a possible option.

University of San Francisco is also going to be a very easy safety on this list but their location is fantastic, the students are friendly, the Jesuit approach to education and social justice work is excellent. It may be hard to believe but some high stats kids don't need or thrive in an environment surrounded by competitive, depressed, or burnt out kids.

[Anonymous]

What about American? Or is that too close to home?