Colleges enrolling the most National Merit Scholarship winners

[Anonymous]

National Merit finalists are divided into few categories, wealthy ones don't care about merit money so they go to the best schools they get accepted at, poor and lower middle income group also do the same as top schools have generous financial aid, donut holes upper middle income ones go to schools where they can find merit money unless frugal parents lower lifestyle and retirement savings, middle middle class goes wherever aid-merit-expense ratio works better.

[Anonymous]

TECHNICALITY

Let's not forget that unless you secure a merit scholarship, from college, from merit foundation or from your parent's employer or charity/community organization, you stay finalist, won't become scholar.

As top colleges don't give merit money, they don't inflate scholar numbers, only show scholars who become scholar from finalist through outside scholarship.

Schools like Alabama and Florida, give each of their finalist applicant some merit money and claim highest numbers of merit scholars.

It would only be fair if we can see where top 2% of National Merit Scholars who get merit money from national merit foundation itself, go to which colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
TECHNICALITY

Let's not forget that unless you secure a merit scholarship, from college, from merit foundation or from your parent's employer or charity/community organization, you stay finalist, won't become scholar.

As top colleges don't give merit money, they don't inflate scholar numbers, only show scholars who become scholar from finalist through outside scholarship.

Schools like Alabama and Florida, give each of their finalist applicant some merit money and claim highest numbers of merit scholars.

It would only be fair if we can see where top 2% of National Merit Scholars who get merit money from national merit foundation itself, go to which colleges.

Aren't college-sponsored scholarships determined at the same time as Merit scholarships? I thought the selection committee gets a list of college-sponsored winners so that there wouldn't be any overlap.

[Anonymous]

Does Fordham no longer do full tuition for NMF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Fordham no longer do full tuition for NMF?

It does.

[Anonymous]

If someone posted the link to the source I overlooked it…

This is random, but I noticed FSU is missing. UF is on there, but so are UCF and USF. Since Florida has the Bright Futures scholarship it makes sense they’d keep more of their NMFs, but FSU is usually 2nd to UF for in-state options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By percentage:

Why is NYU so low?


1. MIT 13.5%
2. Vanderbilt 11.3%
3. Harvard 9.7%
4. Yale 8%
5. USC 7.7%
6. Princeton 7.7%
7. Stanford 7.4%
8. Penn 6%
9. UT Dallas 5.5%
10. Duke 5.3%
11. Columbia 4.9%
12. Emory 4.7%
13. Dartmouth 4.4%
14. Florida 4.4%
15. Rice 4.3%
16. Brown 4%
17. Alabama 3.9%
18. Northeastern 3.9%
19. Northwestern 3.7%
20. Tufts 3.7%
21. Case Western 3.5%
22. Georgetown 3.5%
23. Johns Hopkins 3.4%
24. Carnegie Mellon 2.7%
25. Georgia Tech 2.5%
26. UMD 2.5%
27. UChicago 2.3%
28. Purdue 2.2%
29. BU 2.1%
30. Texas A&M 1.7%
31. Cornell 1.5%
32. UC Berkeley 1.4%
33. Miss State 1.2%
34. UCLA 1.2%
35. UCF 1.1%
36. USF 1.1%
37. BYU 1%
38. Georgia 1%
39. Michigan 1%
40. Clemson .9%
41. Missouri .9%
42. UT Austin .9%
43. UVA .9%
44. UNC .8%
45. Arizona .7%
46. Indiana .7%
47. NYU .7%
48. Ok State .7%
49. ASU .6%
50. Illinois .5%
51. Michigan State .5%'
52. Rutgers .5%

Thank you this looks more meaningful to me. Says which schools value test score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By percentage:

Why is NYU so low?


1. MIT 13.5%
2. Vanderbilt 11.3%
3. Harvard 9.7%
4. Yale 8%
5. USC 7.7%
6. Princeton 7.7%
7. Stanford 7.4%
8. Penn 6%
9. UT Dallas 5.5%
10. Duke 5.3%
11. Columbia 4.9%
12. Emory 4.7%
13. Dartmouth 4.4%
14. Florida 4.4%
15. Rice 4.3%
16. Brown 4%
17. Alabama 3.9%
18. Northeastern 3.9%
19. Northwestern 3.7%
20. Tufts 3.7%
21. Case Western 3.5%
22. Georgetown 3.5%
23. Johns Hopkins 3.4%
24. Carnegie Mellon 2.7%
25. Georgia Tech 2.5%
26. UMD 2.5%
27. UChicago 2.3%
28. Purdue 2.2%
29. BU 2.1%
30. Texas A&M 1.7%
31. Cornell 1.5%
32. UC Berkeley 1.4%
33. Miss State 1.2%
34. UCLA 1.2%
35. UCF 1.1%
36. USF 1.1%
37. BYU 1%
38. Georgia 1%
39. Michigan 1%
40. Clemson .9%
41. Missouri .9%
42. UT Austin .9%
43. UVA .9%
44. UNC .8%
45. Arizona .7%
46. Indiana .7%
47. NYU .7%
48. Ok State .7%
49. ASU .6%
50. Illinois .5%
51. Michigan State .5%'
52. Rutgers .5%

Thank you this looks more meaningful to me. Says which schools value test score.

It’s worth noting a lot of these schools offer additional scholarships for National Merit Scholars once they enroll. So among schools that don’t offer the bump, the top 10 would be:

1. MIT
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
5. Stanford
6. Penn
7. Duke
8. Columbia
9. Dartmouth
10. Rice

[Anonymous]

Can kids who are scholarships directly from NMSC able to get in to whatever college they want or is there stiff competition, even for them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can kids who are scholarships directly from NMSC able to get in to whatever college they want or is there stiff competition, even for them?

The direct awards are not until after acceptances have occurred, so there is no direct benefit.

Of course those kids likely have strong overall applications…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone posted the link to the source I overlooked it…

This is random, but I noticed FSU is missing. UF is on there, but so are UCF and USF. Since Florida has the Bright Futures scholarship it makes sense they’d keep more of their NMFs, but FSU is usually 2nd to UF for in-state options.

I agree that it’s odd.
FYI Bright Futures covers tuition for Florida residents and that program is open to all Florida students. The Benaquisto program gives NMS a full ride (to also include room and board) for all Florida public universities to Florida in-state residents (until a couple years ago it was also given to OOS students). It’s administered at the state level so it’s very odd that FSU wouldn’t be on the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can kids who are scholarships directly from NMSC able to get in to whatever college they want or is there stiff competition, even for them?

There is still stiff competition. My NMS didn’t get into any of the Ivies she applied to. It’s nice but doesn’t really help at the selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:35 at UVA seems low.

Some states have considerably lower criteria for NMS -- VA, MD, DC always have very high bars--within the top 5.

As if we needed ANOTHER reason to move to Mississippi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By percentage:

Why is NYU so low?


1. MIT 13.5%
2. Vanderbilt 11.3%
3. Harvard 9.7%
4. Yale 8%
5. USC 7.7%
6. Princeton 7.7%
7. Stanford 7.4%
8. Penn 6%
9. UT Dallas 5.5%
10. Duke 5.3%
11. Columbia 4.9%
12. Emory 4.7%
13. Dartmouth 4.4%
14. Florida 4.4%
15. Rice 4.3%
16. Brown 4%
17. Alabama 3.9%
18. Northeastern 3.9%
19. Northwestern 3.7%
20. Tufts 3.7%
21. Case Western 3.5%
22. Georgetown 3.5%
23. Johns Hopkins 3.4%
24. Carnegie Mellon 2.7%
25. Georgia Tech 2.5%
26. UMD 2.5%
27. UChicago 2.3%
28. Purdue 2.2%
29. BU 2.1%
30. Texas A&M 1.7%
31. Cornell 1.5%
32. UC Berkeley 1.4%
33. Miss State 1.2%
34. UCLA 1.2%
35. UCF 1.1%
36. USF 1.1%
37. BYU 1%
38. Georgia 1%
39. Michigan 1%
40. Clemson .9%
41. Missouri .9%
42. UT Austin .9%
43. UVA .9%
44. UNC .8%
45. Arizona .7%
46. Indiana .7%
47. NYU .7%
48. Ok State .7%
49. ASU .6%
50. Illinois .5%
51. Michigan State .5%'
52. Rutgers .5%

Thank you this looks more meaningful to me. Says which schools value test score.

It’s worth noting a lot of these schools offer additional scholarships for National Merit Scholars once they enroll. So among schools that don’t offer the bump, the top 10 would be:

1. MIT
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. Princeton
5. Stanford
6. Penn
7. Duke
8. Columbia
9. Dartmouth
10. Rice

DP. If "bump" refers to merit money upon enrollment, UChicago and Northwestern no longer offer anything either.

[Anonymous]

How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.