Colleges enrolling the most National Merit Scholarship winners

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Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

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Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

Schools like Emory, NEU, Georgia Tech, Tufts have considerably more. It just seems that given how large the enrollment is it would have more.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

Schools like Emory, NEU, Georgia Tech, Tufts have considerably more. It just seems that given how large the enrollment is it would have more.

Well Emory I'd more prestigious, neu gives scholarships to those students, gatecg is a southern public so they probably search for those students as well. Not sure about Tufts.

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Weird Vandy is so high when they accept 40%+ students test optional!

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Anonymous wrote:PP again. It's useful to look at the average SAT scores across a wide range of schools. There are lots of "second tier" LACs with much high median SAT scores than you'd find at very competitive schools, especially the big football public schools. The vibe at these LACs will be more intellectual and academic than at the big football schools.

That only worked when everyone had to submit a score.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

Schools like Emory, NEU, Georgia Tech, Tufts have considerably more. It just seems that given how large the enrollment is it would have more.

NYU had 44 and did not sponsor any. Emory had 67 but it sponsored 54 of them. Tufts had 63 but it sponsored 54. NEU had 97 but it sponsored 78. Sponsored = gave additional money.

Georgia Tech is the outlier. It had 90 and did not sponsor any.

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Anonymous wrote:Weird Vandy is so high when they accept 40%+ students test optional!

Kind of interesting.

But Vanderbilt has been a high stats school for a while.

Still.

Why bother being test optional when you're killing it?

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Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

Schools like Emory, NEU, Georgia Tech, Tufts have considerably more. It just seems that given how large the enrollment is it would have more.

NYU had 44 and did not sponsor any. Emory had 67 but it sponsored 54 of them. Tufts had 63 but it sponsored 54. NEU had 97 but it sponsored 78. Sponsored = gave additional money.

Georgia Tech is the outlier. It had 90 and did not sponsor any.

What is the downside of sponsoring them? It seems like a win-win, the school gets a dynamite student, and the student saves some money.

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How does a school sponsor a student?

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Anonymous wrote:First is the raw number; then adjusted for percentage of enrolled freshmen to account for undergraduate size. Some schools like Alabama and ASU offer full scholarships to winners so you will see a large number at these institutions.


1. Alabama 323 [8,279 Freshmen, 3.9%]
2. Florida 297 [6,612 Freshmen 4.4%]
3. USC 262 [3,402 Freshmen, 7.7%]
4. Purdue 260 [9,353 Freshmen, 2.7%]
5. UT Dallas 232 [4,218 Freshmen, 5.5%]
6. Texas A&M 219 [12,419 Freshmen, 1.7%]
7. Vanderbilt 185 [1,624 Freshmen, 11.3%]
8. Harvard 160 [1,644 Freshmen, 9.7%]
9. MIT 154 [1,136 Freshmen, 13.5%]
10. Penn 147 [2,415 Freshmen, 6%]
11. UMD 144 [5,821 Freshmen, 2.5%]
12. Stanford 129 [1,733 Freshmen, 7.4%]
13. Yale 127 [1,554 Freshmen, 8%]
14. Princeton 116 [1,497 Freshmen, 7.7%]
15. Northeastern 97 [2,519 Freshmen, 3.9%]
16. Duke 94 [1,744 Freshmen, 5.3%]
17. UC Berkeley 93 [6,707 Freshmen, 1.4%]
18. Georgia Tech 90 [3,646 Freshmen, 2.5%]
19. UCF 85 [7,512 Freshmen, 1.1%]
20. UT Austin 85 [9,109 Freshmen, .9%]
21. Oklahoma 84
22. Minnesota 79
23. BU 77 [3,635 Freshmen, 2.1%]
24. UCLA 77 [6,461 Freshmen, 1.2%]
25. USF 77 [6,773 Freshmen, 1.1%]
26. Michigan 76 [7,050 Freshmen, 1%]
27. Columbia 75 [1,522 Freshmen, 4.9%]
28. Northwestern 75 [2,038 Freshmen, 3.7%]
29. Brown 69 [1,717 Freshmen, 4%]
30. Emory 67 [1,424 Freshmen, 4.7%]
31. Indiana 67 [9,736 Freshmen, .7%]
32. Arizona 65 [9,069 Freshmen, .7%]
33. Tufts 63 [1,694 Freshmen, 3.7%]
34. ASU 62 [10,022 Freshmen, .6%]
35. Georgia 60 [6,250 Freshmen, 1%]
36. BYU 59 [5,567 Freshmen, 1%]
37. Georgetown 56 [1,603 Freshmen, 3.5%]
38. Case Western 55 [1,553 Freshmen, 3.5%]
39. Cornell 54 [3,491 Freshmen, 1.5%]
40. Rice 51 [1,201 Freshmen, 4.3%]
41. Dartmouth 49 [1,124 Freshmen, 4.4%]
42. Michigan State 49 [9,829 Freshmen .5%]
43. Johns Hopkins 48 [1,406 Freshmen 3.4%]
44. UChicago 48 [2,053 Freshmen, 2.3%]
45. Carnegie Mellon 47 [1,716 Freshmen, 2.7%]
46. Clemson 45 [4,588 Freshmen, .99%]
47. Missouri 45 [4,983 Freshmen, .9%]
48. NYU 44 [6,184 Freshmen, .7%]
49. Miss State 43 [3,367 Freshmen, 1.2%]
50. Rutgers 43 [7,780 Freshmen, .5%]
51. UNC 40 [4,689 Freshmen, .8%]
52. Illinois 39 [8,297 Freshmen, .5%]
53. Oklahoma State 36 [4,643 Freshmen, .7%]
54. Iowa State 35
55. UVA 35 [4,020 Freshmen, .9%]

UMD is pretty awesome. They sponsor 1K per year (for 4 years) as NMS scholarship for their accepted NMS Finalists. Even NMSC does not give this much $.

However, UT Dallas is another level of money and privileges for any kid who is an NMS Finalist. They are given full ride (room, board, tuition), stipend, internships and research jobs, and money for a semester abroad. Also, their admissions deadline is May.

You really think 1k is generous? UMD doesn’t offer much IMO. My NMF went out of state because UMD didn’t offer much merit.

Well, for my DC - it works out to around 4K of National Merit scholarship over 4 years sponsored by UMD. Otherwise the scholarship given by NMSC is a one time scholarship of $2,500.

But, then UMD also gave my DC full tuition merit scholarship. Of course, some colleges like UT Dallas makes college completely free for NMF.

Still my kid getting a double major for the cost of room and board is pretty good.

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Anonymous wrote:How does a school sponsor a student?

Student applies to college, college offers admission, student accepts the offer and gets admitted. Student informs the National Merit Scholarship Corporation that they have got admitted to XYZ college. NMSC then informs the college and the student when the student becomes a finalist. College may have a policy to sponsor all National Merit Finalists who are admitted to their college through NMS. So, college gives money to NMS for their students, NMS gives it to student.

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Anonymous wrote:How can NYU be so low? It has like a bajillion students.

Why would you think it would get more than 44? It seems to be ballpark for where I would expect given it does not sponsor.

Schools like Emory, NEU, Georgia Tech, Tufts have considerably more. It just seems that given how large the enrollment is it would have more.

NYU had 44 and did not sponsor any. Emory had 67 but it sponsored 54 of them. Tufts had 63 but it sponsored 54. NEU had 97 but it sponsored 78. Sponsored = gave additional money.

Georgia Tech is the outlier. It had 90 and did not sponsor any.

What is the downside of sponsoring them? It seems like a win-win, the school gets a dynamite student, and the student saves some money.

It costs the school money that could be put toward other forms of aid and it could detract from focus on their own merit programs.

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Anonymous wrote:How does a school sponsor a student?

Student applies to college, college offers admission, student accepts the offer and gets admitted. Student informs the National Merit Scholarship Corporation that they have got admitted to XYZ college. NMSC then informs the college and the student when the student becomes a finalist. College may have a policy to sponsor all National Merit Finalists who are admitted to their college through NMS. So, college gives money to NMS for their students, NMS gives it to student.

Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:35 at UVA seems low.

No sounds about right for that redneck school.

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Anonymous wrote:Among publics that don't sponsor, the top 5 are:

93 Berkeley
90 Georgia Tech
85 UT Austin
77 UCLA
76 Michigan
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11 UVA