Supreme Court Refuses to Take Up TJ Admissions

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?


All students will have a shot at enrichment like TJ, not just those from wealthy schools where parents can afford outside enrichment.

What kind of outside enrichment?


They are being sarcastic. The best tech high school in the nation has been destroyed by politics. Can't you understand that?


Seems to be doing just fine. Did you see the linked article about current TJ juniors and sophomore founding a company with laser powered computer chips. Admitted under the new policy! Gasp!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mother used to teach at a similar school in the Midwest, which takes students from all over the state — some of the rural kids had far less math and/or resources than the city or wealthy kids and thus less “qualified” by DCUM standards; however, they excelled once in that rigorous environment. One year (this was 30 years ago), 11 kids got into MIT. Many more got into Cal Tech, Harvard, and the like. I applaud FCPS for making TK more accessible to the county. FWIW, I read that while they did away with standardized tests for admissions, they raised the GPA and other standards.



But they didn't. My kids (white) can't get in. They made it accessible only to URMs. And that meant fewer seats for superlative asian american students (which my kids are not, but that is the truth). and now the reputation of the school has cratered. GOOD JOB FUHS!


Admissions for white students actually increased. Why do you think the reputation has catered? Students continue to be on top of the pyramid.


Huh. My white kid got in under new admissions. Apparent about 100 others just not yours, I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.


Are you new here? We hashed this all out years ago.

Thank god this is finally over. Leave the kids alone, Republicans. Stop using them as pawns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.


Are you new here? We hashed this all out years ago.

Thank god this is finally over. Leave the kids alone, Republicans. Stop using them as pawns.


Democrats are the ones using us as pawns to achieve their idea of "racial diversity", treating us as groups rather than individuals
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.


Are you new here? We hashed this all out years ago.

Thank god this is finally over. Leave the kids alone, Republicans. Stop using them as pawns.


Democrats are the ones using us as pawns to achieve their idea of "racial diversity", treating us as groups rather than individuals


DP. There really was a lot more going on when they changed the admissions, a lot more that you don't know about or are refusing to admit. There was cheating on the test; there was cheating in the school. There were declining applications; TJ was seen as undesirable by many prospective students.

These changes are welcome. Now leave the kids alone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.


Are you new here? We hashed this all out years ago.

Thank god this is finally over. Leave the kids alone, Republicans. Stop using them as pawns.


Democrats are the ones using us as pawns to achieve their idea of "racial diversity", treating us as groups rather than individuals


DP. There really was a lot more going on when they changed the admissions, a lot more that you don't know about or are refusing to admit. There was cheating on the test; there was cheating in the school. There were declining applications; TJ was seen as undesirable by many prospective students.

These changes are welcome. Now leave the kids alone.


I don't understand how dumbing down the test fixes any of the problems you listed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "Parents Defending Education” claim that it’s a “grassroots” organization is total BS - they are part of a larger orchestrated effort to drive wedge issues for the GOP. It’s just another astroturfing scam to get suburban moms worked up into a frenzy with OUTRAGE after OUTRAGE.

They have ties to the Koch Bros.
https://defendinged.org/about/

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Speech_First
Speech First's president and only listed employee, Nicole Neily has worked for many Koch-affiliated groups. Neily was the president of the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, the Cato Institute’s manager of external relations, the coalition relations manager for FreedomWorks’ Center for Global Economic Growth, and a "Koch summer fellow for both the Center for Financial Privacy and Human Rights and the Competitive Enterprise Institute."[7]

The Nation, characterized Speech First as "a highly professional astro-turfing campaign, with a board of former Bush Administration lawyers and longtime affiliates of the Koch family...Speech First’s board of directors includes a former head of a Koch-backed trust and two conservative attorneys from Koch-funded programs."[2]

The people involved are anti-“CRT”, anti-trans, anti-education.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-critical-race-theory-in-our-schools/article_ba449c18-cf99-11eb-a719-4bfc9103236c.html

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/.
Parents Defending Education is corporate school privatizers going hard right to attack school boards, superintendents, principals, and teachers. It’s a dirty game and it’s about as grassroots as say, a Koch political operation.

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.


Again, I acknowledged they have a biased perspective. However, they also have the evidence exhibits, which you can interpret. No need to read their interpretation, just draw your own conclusions from the evidence.


Are you new here? We hashed this all out years ago.

Thank god this is finally over. Leave the kids alone, Republicans. Stop using them as pawns.


Democrats are the ones using us as pawns to achieve their idea of "racial diversity", treating us as groups rather than individuals


DP. There really was a lot more going on when they changed the admissions, a lot more that you don't know about or are refusing to admit. There was cheating on the test; there was cheating in the school. There were declining applications; TJ was seen as undesirable by many prospective students.

These changes are welcome. Now leave the kids alone.


I don't understand how dumbing down the test fixes any of the problems you listed.


They didn't dumb down the test, they changed it completely. It is an entirely different kind of test. And made it more difficult to cheat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mother used to teach at a similar school in the Midwest, which takes students from all over the state — some of the rural kids had far less math and/or resources than the city or wealthy kids and thus less “qualified” by DCUM standards; however, they excelled once in that rigorous environment. One year (this was 30 years ago), 11 kids got into MIT. Many more got into Cal Tech, Harvard, and the like. I applaud FCPS for making TK more accessible to the county. FWIW, I read that while they did away with standardized tests for admissions, they raised the GPA and other standards.



But they didn't. My kids (white) can't get in. They made it accessible only to URMs. And that meant fewer seats for superlative asian american students (which my kids are not, but that is the truth). and now the reputation of the school has cratered. GOOD JOB FUHS!


My neighbors’ white kids got in under the new standards. Stop spreading falsehoods. And if the school’s reputation has cratered, why do you care if your white kids can’t get in?
Anonymous
The school's reputation has cratered only amongst those who have either a politically or personally vested interest in arguing against the recent admissions policy changes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school had become rampant with cheating. Mediocre minds perfectly prepared for a specific entrance exam.
The current process returns the school to what it once was. A special place for genuinely special students.



This is the liberal screed but it's not true. In the meantime, TJ went from best tech school in the nation to --- what?? What a shame and my tax dollars shot


So strange to mess up the top HS in the country!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school had become rampant with cheating. Mediocre minds perfectly prepared for a specific entrance exam.
The current process returns the school to what it once was. A special place for genuinely special students.



This is the liberal screed but it's not true. In the meantime, TJ went from best tech school in the nation to --- what?? What a shame and my tax dollars shot


So strange to mess up the top HS in the country!


I'll take "Things that haven't actually happened" for $100 Alex Ken
Anonymous
College admissions should rely way more on standardized tests in some form. Then all this high school hysteria stuff can just go on. But of course they can't, because then the wrong people would be overrepresented at competitive colleges, whoever they may be - I don't know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope FCPS was awarded attorneys fees.


That would be beautiful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My mother used to teach at a similar school in the Midwest, which takes students from all over the state — some of the rural kids had far less math and/or resources than the city or wealthy kids and thus less “qualified” by DCUM standards; however, they excelled once in that rigorous environment. One year (this was 30 years ago), 11 kids got into MIT. Many more got into Cal Tech, Harvard, and the like. I applaud FCPS for making TK more accessible to the county. FWIW, I read that while they did away with standardized tests for admissions, they raised the GPA and other standards.



But they didn't. My kids (white) can't get in. They made it accessible only to URMs. And that meant fewer seats for superlative asian american students (which my kids are not, but that is the truth). and now the reputation of the school has cratered. GOOD JOB FUHS!


Bull crap. ORMs (Asian students) s
till make up the majority of the classes.

“Economically disadvantaged students comprise 11.64% of the class of 2027.
2.91% of students are English Language Learners.
Female students represent 43.4%.
Asian students represent 61.64%.
White students represent 19.09%.
Black students represent 6.73%.
Hispanic students represent 6.00%.
95.27% of students receiving offers come from public schools.”



Not bull crap. TJ has been destroyed by equity and DEI stuff. And the ASian American community has been the hardest hit. (no I am not one of them - I just know national education news).


Turn off Newsmax.


LOL!
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