Supreme Court Refuses to Take Up TJ Admissions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/022024zor_7647.pdf

You have to scroll down all the way to the bottom to page 30 of 39 to find Justice Alito's dissent, with which Justice Thomas joined. Notably, Justice Gorsuch had originally indicated that he would grant the vacatur request from a couple of years ago but voted this time around not to hear the case.

It is refreshing that this matter has finally come to an end, and decisively with four conservatives (and all three Trump appointees!) choosing not to hear the case. I only wish that we had an opinion from, say, Roberts or Kavanaugh that explained their decision not to hear it. Would be nice for the Coalition - who can now officially be referred to as a Lost Cause and a failed enterprise - to receive one final rhetorical death blow.

FYI— although Gorsuch didn’t join Alito’s dissent you can’t really assume he voted against hearing the case. We know at least six justices voted against hearing the case and Alito voted to hear it, but we don’t know if there were 1,2, or 3 justices voting to hear it. [/quote]


Utterly false. They don't vote AGAINST a case in chambers. Petitions for cert must get four justices to vote to hear the case. That didn't happen here. The fact that Alito wanted to chat about it is something Justices do from time to time to signal what they want to see in a better formed appeal in a later case. Some justices are interested in particular issues and might opine something, but most lawyers with sCOTUS experience will tell you that this is just one of 8,000 to 10,000 petitions for writ of certiori that didn't get the four justice vote. That's all it signifies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

admissions will continue to be determined by a single essay based lottery system

[Anonymous]

A murderers' row of fascist MAGA billionaire kooks funded the suit against FCPS, from Koch to Scaife. Feels good to have won this skirmish in the war against authoritarianism. Now let's pause for ten seconds and celebrate the awesome TJ boys' basketball team and their brilliant coach!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

admissions will continue to be determined by a single essay based lottery system

Can I just say I'm impressed by how concise this sentence is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

All students will have a shot at enrichment like TJ, not just those from wealthy schools where parents can afford outside enrichment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

admissions will continue to be determined by a single essay based lottery system

Can I just say I'm impressed by how concise this sentence is?

I'm even more impressed with how it's free of facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s official - the Supreme Court has declined to take up the TJ admissions case. Amazingly, the Court has decided it doesn’t want to become a local school board.

Finally! We can put an end to the madness!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy about this.

-Asian mom who was disgusted by the racism on both sides of the arguments.

Now, can we get back to how to make the schools better? Like maybe- better school lunches?

It would be helpful, if parents backed off the teachers and schools. Land the helicopters.

+1. Fairfax County parents are too much. No teacher gets paid enough, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A murderers' row of fascist MAGA billionaire kooks funded the suit against FCPS, from Koch to Scaife. Feels good to have won this skirmish in the war against authoritarianism. Now let's pause for ten seconds and celebrate the awesome TJ boys' basketball team and their brilliant coach!

He’s kind of a jerk as he pretends Jefferson never existed before it became TJHSST.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

admissions will continue to be determined by a single essay based lottery system

so why is this a MAGA trigger? It sounds less preferential and more anti “DEI/woke” and to maga’s liking?

[Anonymous]

I hope FCPS was awarded attorneys fees.

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Anonymous wrote:Even this Supreme Court (the one that just overturned affirmative action) didn’t think this was worth taking. That’s the end of Azra and Harry Jackson’s ridiculous quest. Bye!

You can't conclude that from a denial of a petition for writ of certiorari. The court can decide not to take an appeal for any number of reasons, including ripeness. Hundreds of certs. are denied every year.

DP... Ripeness? They literally JUST did Harvard and UNC. Roberts in his opinion warned against doing things indirectly that you couldn't do directly.

Conservatives have to be HOWLING that this wasn't taken up.

No, because most of them understand the chance of the case being heard was next to nil with the volume of cert petitions up there. All this means is that four justices didn't vote to take the case NOW. It could take a similar case a year from now or three years from now (goes to ripeness). .

Nonsense. The case was re-listed several times for consideration by the justices. It was being watched closely by commentators such as SCOTUSblog. To suggest that it was just one of the thousands is to fundamentally misunderstand this process and the relative importance of the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A murderers' row of fascist MAGA billionaire kooks funded the suit against FCPS, from Koch to Scaife. Feels good to have won this skirmish in the war against authoritarianism. Now let's pause for ten seconds and celebrate the awesome TJ boys' basketball team and their brilliant coach!

Oh please, anytime any nut here goes off on a MAGA Trump line I move along. No point in dealing with crazies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide a one sentence summary of the current, existing policy (left unchanged by the SCt I assume)?

admissions will continue to be determined by a single essay based lottery system

so why is this a MAGA trigger? It sounds less preferential and more anti “DEI/woke” and to maga’s liking?

It's fake news. They just want to go back to a system that was easily gamed by anyone with resources.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even so, the FCPS statement about the cert denial is cringe-inducing, as you might expect. They make it sound like TJ is now fully representative of FCPS communities and student demographics when that's anything but the case. But they moved the needle a bit, so of course you're going to get the likes of Karl Frisch patting himself incessantly on the back.

You are right about that. TJ needs to acknowledge the needs of its diverse demographics. As long as TJ lacks sports focus and fails to understand how sports is integral part of learning and personal development, we are not going anywhere near its vicinity. What they are really want our kids to turn into is nerdy bookworms.

"We came for the sports!"