Any seniors heading to Oxford/Cambridge in DMV area?

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Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

Does your child want to teach? Do they want an MPhil or DPhil? The Oxbridge DPhil is not pedagogical. It is purely research-driven. That can be a plus or a minus. If your child wants to teach back here in the U.S., it is usually better to get the (much longer) U.S. doctorate because it includes pedagogy. On the other hand, in the right department, you can get an Oxford DPhil faster than a U.S. one.

Nope. Teaching is learned on the (underpaid) job.

that's what pedagogy means. My DPhil kid at Oxbridge does no teaching.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

I know a non-HYP ivy grad who chose a 2nd tier US grad school over Oxford. Part of her logic was that she already has a US ivy degree that was good enough for her so the Oxford name recognition didn't have the pull.

and how did that work out for her? Odd choice. Usually the last degree is the one whose stature gets you the best job placements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

I know a non-HYP ivy grad who chose a 2nd tier US grad school over Oxford. Part of her logic was that she already has a US ivy degree that was good enough for her so the Oxford name recognition didn't have the pull.

and how did that work out for her? Odd choice. Usually the last degree is the one whose stature gets you the best job placements.

Another part of the student's logic was that the 2nd tier uni was in NYC, and she was betting on networking opportunities in the city. There's really no Oxford brand that her US non-HYP ivy did not have in terms of name recognition.

[Anonymous]

Depends on area of study.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

I know a non-HYP ivy grad who chose a 2nd tier US grad school over Oxford. Part of her logic was that she already has a US ivy degree that was good enough for her so the Oxford name recognition didn't have the pull.

and how did that work out for her? Odd choice. Usually the last degree is the one whose stature gets you the best job placements.

Another part of the student's logic was that the 2nd tier uni was in NYC, and she was betting on networking opportunities in the city. There's really no Oxford brand that her US non-HYP ivy did not have in terms of name recognition.

Fordham has plenty of make recognition in nyc too. I can still say Brown is the “better” school. Also no reason to type out non-HYP Ivy. lol. We don’t know your college roommates sons girlfriend. Say Cornell if you mean it. Or Dartmouth we don’t care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

I know a non-HYP ivy grad who chose a 2nd tier US grad school over Oxford. Part of her logic was that she already has a US ivy degree that was good enough for her so the Oxford name recognition didn't have the pull.

and how did that work out for her? Odd choice. Usually the last degree is the one whose stature gets you the best job placements.

Another part of the student's logic was that the 2nd tier uni was in NYC, and she was betting on networking opportunities in the city. There's really no Oxford brand that her US non-HYP ivy did not have in terms of name recognition.

Sorry, I don't believe that for a second. An Oxford DPhil opens doors Thousands of doors. Just the experience of being there and meeting other students and faculty from around the world opens doors. Why would anyne think this for a second if they had such an opportunity? I would kill to spend a few years at Oxford or Cambridge just for walking around rights, touring, meeting people, going to concerts, the architecture, touring europe and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

I know a non-HYP ivy grad who chose a 2nd tier US grad school over Oxford. Part of her logic was that she already has a US ivy degree that was good enough for her so the Oxford name recognition didn't have the pull.

and how did that work out for her? Odd choice. Usually the last degree is the one whose stature gets you the best job placements.

Another part of the student's logic was that the 2nd tier uni was in NYC, and she was betting on networking opportunities in the city. There's really no Oxford brand that her US non-HYP ivy did not have in terms of name recognition.

Fordham has plenty of make recognition in nyc too. I can still say Brown is the “better” school. Also no reason to type out non-HYP Ivy. lol. We don’t know your college roommates sons girlfriend. Say Cornell if you mean it. Or Dartmouth we don’t care

Well, Fordham has a certain "kind" of name recognition but it's not Oxbridge.

[Anonymous]

"okay", dad

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The specific college is what matters. Some colleges are technically at Oxford/Cambridge but are decidedly unoxbridge. Unlike in the US, you can only use the resources at your college. So instead of having a grand all-uni library, some colleges have gothic cathedral libraries and some have libraries with aluminum shelves and moldy carpet.

Utter nonsense. Most of my tutorials were outside my college. All of my lectures were. And I spent almost all my time working in the Bodleian. Students in all colleges get their degrees from the university, and have access to all the university facilities and libraries.

Please don’t post nonsense when you have no idea what you are talking about.

+1. My kid is at St. Hugh's (70% grad students) where she started as a MPhil candidate and is now DPhil. NONE of her seminars or tutorials are at St. Hugh's. Yet she loves the place (it's known as having the most beautiful gardens - we went for the MPhil graduation and it is indeed lovely. Also, she doesn't have to experience the drunken undergrad students as much as she would have in colleges with more undergrads). She walks all over Oxford daily for her tutorials and meetings with professors. She has high table one night at All Souls then another at Magdalene. It's an incredible experience. But it is what you make of it. No one is going to invite you to the other colleges for high table unless you get out there and meet people. There is no hand holding at Oxford. you must make the experience for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"okay", dad

sorry you are so bitter that your kid is not a contender. please go away so the rest of us can discuss this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUMers: What would you choose? Oxbridge or HYP? For, say, Math/Physics/Economics?

Does your child want to teach? Do they want an MPhil or DPhil? The Oxbridge DPhil is not pedagogical. It is purely research-driven. That can be a plus or a minus. If your child wants to teach back here in the U.S., it is usually better to get the (much longer) U.S. doctorate because it includes pedagogy. On the other hand, in the right department, you can get an Oxford DPhil faster than a U.S. one.

Nope. Teaching is learned on the (underpaid) job.

that's what pedagogy means. My DPhil kid at Oxbridge does no teaching.

Not really.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"okay", dad

sorry you are so bitter that your kid is not a contender. please go away so the rest of us can discuss this

I'm the one who went to Oxford! LOL. And my kid is fine. Don't worry. Just stop quoting in this super weird way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"okay", dad

sorry you are so bitter that your kid is not a contender. please go away so the rest of us can discuss this

I'm the one who went to Oxford! LOL. And my kid is fine. Don't worry. Just stop quoting in this super weird way.

I doubt that. When? College? Degrees? Clubs? Activities? Affiliations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"okay", dad

sorry you are so bitter that your kid is not a contender. please go away so the rest of us can discuss this

I'm the one who went to Oxford! LOL. And my kid is fine. Don't worry. Just stop quoting in this super weird way.

I doubt that. When? College? Degrees? Clubs? Activities? Affiliations?

Oh! My mistake! I didn’t read far enough up thread thought something else but you were responding to the “Oxford dad” weirdo. Yes, ignore him. He has unresolved issues. I’m here to help if anyone has other questions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The specific college is what matters. Some colleges are technically at Oxford/Cambridge but are decidedly unoxbridge. Unlike in the US, you can only use the resources at your college. So instead of having a grand all-uni library, some colleges have gothic cathedral libraries and some have libraries with aluminum shelves and moldy carpet.

Utter nonsense. Most of my tutorials were outside my college. All of my lectures were. And I spent almost all my time working in the Bodleian. Students in all colleges get their degrees from the university, and have access to all the university facilities and libraries.

Please don’t post nonsense when you have no idea what you are talking about.

+1. My kid is at St. Hugh's (70% grad students) where she started as a MPhil candidate and is now DPhil. NONE of her seminars or tutorials are at St. Hugh's. Yet she loves the place (it's known as having the most beautiful gardens - we went for the MPhil graduation and it is indeed lovely. Also, she doesn't have to experience the drunken undergrad students as much as she would have in colleges with more undergrads). She walks all over Oxford daily for her tutorials and meetings with professors. She has high table one night at All Souls then another at Magdalene. It's an incredible experience. But it is what you make of it. No one is going to invite you to the other colleges for high table unless you get out there and meet people. There is no hand holding at Oxford. you must make the experience for yourself.

So are introverts not likely to have a good experience?