OPM tomorrow thumps up or down

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Anonymous wrote:Does it really matter anymore nor that we all have the ability to telework?

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Everyone who can telework will telework unless they want to go into the office. This is not rocket science.

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Anonymous wrote:Govt is closed. OPM updated.

Offices are closed. But those of us who have telework agreements will be working from home.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

At my agency, yes, we're required to telework on snow days, even if you don't telework any other time. It's a fairly new policy that started after covid.

You are required to work on snow days if you have a telework agreement on file. Those are voluntary but most employees would have signed a situational telework agreement during Covid.

The claim is that the continuity of operations provisions can compel telework for weather closures even without a situational telework plan. Basically, the same way they made people telework during covid without telework agreements.

OPM’s status early during covid was open with maximum telework. You either went to the office or teleworked if you wanted to get paid.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

Please stop lying. There is no private sector employer with leave accrual as generous as the feds. “Unlimited vacation” is a lie companies made up to stop having to pay out accrued PTO, and people are pressured into taking ~2 weeks a year in many workplaces.

Most private sector jobs don’t have parental leave either and if you could earn more in the private sector with equivalent PTO odds are good you wouldn’t be a fed.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCPS just called it CLOSED. When is OPM going to call the ball?

OPM has posted that DC is closed.

What does Bowser think of this? The small businesses of DC needs customers.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

You are confusing two things.

Do federal employees get a lot of leave? Yes, absolutely.
Have you personally had reason to use most of that leave? Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Govt is closed. OPM updated.

Offices are closed. But those of us who have telework agreements will be working from home.

PP here. That goes without saying. I am a teleworker too and haven’t had a snow day in years and anyone who teleworks knows what the deal is.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

This exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

This is my experience as an older millennial fed too - had kids JUST before PPL so burned years of accrued leave to go back a month before covid hit, haven't been around long enough for the highest leave category. I have just, almost 4 years later, dug myself out enough to take a week's vacation. (So I'm posting this from the Caribbean, after we stayed home over the holidays - praise the Lord )

Meanwhile my peers in the private sector are getting 6 month paid maternity leaves, and just seem to have so much more flexibility day to day. "Unlimited PTO" may be BS, but they also aren't asked to account for their time hourly like even FLSA-exempt feds, and would never be asked to use leave to take a partial day off on a snow day if they could just manage around it (make any important meetings, sign on for two hours after bed for emails). We're really treated like the babies of white collar employment.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

Please stop lying. There is no private sector employer with leave accrual as generous as the feds. “Unlimited vacation” is a lie companies made up to stop having to pay out accrued PTO, and people are pressured into taking ~2 weeks a year in many workplaces.

Most private sector jobs don’t have parental leave either and if you could earn more in the private sector with equivalent PTO odds are good you wouldn’t be a fed.

You must not work in an in-demand field if you think the fed leave policies are "generous."

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

The feds get tons of leave thing is not fully accurate. Those of us who were feds back when they had no maternity leave (just a few short years ago) have NEVER recovered. Most of us used every single leave hour to try to stay home the basic 12 weeks or used lwop. I had only finally built up a leave balance again when covid hit and none of us got infected in till after they removed special leave for it so my leave was gone when you added up 2 kids getting it separately and myself getting it all at diff times, that was almost 18 days of leave. Oh, and then my mom died. And then my kid got the flu. and then we were finally done with daycare and started public school which has closures practically every two weeks requiring use of leave of paying for camps if you can get it.

So a forced liberal leave day does upset me when it happens.

Please do not perpetuate the myth that all feds have tons of leave there are a lot of us who are struggling. I can barely save up enough. We have never gone on a vacation because I have no leave. All we do at most is a long weekend driving distance. I hate it.

The people I know in the private sector are all doing so much better than the federal employees in their 40s I know in this regard. ALL. The younger employees are far better off then we were if they decide to have families, but they have other challenges with cost-of-living.

You are confusing two things.

Do federal employees get a lot of leave? Yes, absolutely.
Have you personally had reason to use most of that leave? Yes.

Boomer and GenX feds get tons of leave. New feds get 13 days.

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Ugh, I wanted to go into the office for peace and quiet work time during my kids' snow day. Sigh.