OPM tomorrow thumps up or down

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

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I get to telework full time, which adds a lot of convenience to my life overall. It is inconvenient during the occasional snow day that my young kids are home and I have to take leave. But I’d rather WAH than go into an office and get a handful (sometimes none even) snow days off each year.

My teacher friends have to go in each day. Early mornings too, no flex schedule. They have to plan a sub just to go to a doctor’s appointment.

But they get snow days, random school breaks, and summers off. There’s perks and draw backs to most jobs, PP is making Feds look whiny with the “unfairness” spiel.

+1. This is a very good take.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

Ok then no complaining if you also have to telework when it snows. We can’t have it all.

Personally I think we’re teleworking too much but am not up for reviving the million other threads on fed RTO policies.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

At my agency, yes, we're required to telework on snow days, even if you don't telework any other time. It's a fairly new policy that started after covid.

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Well, DCPS just called it CLOSED. When is OPM going to call the ball?

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

You are required to work on snow days if you have a telework agreement on file. Those are voluntary but most employees would have signed a situational telework agreement during Covid.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

At my agency, yes, we're required to telework on snow days, even if you don't telework any other time. It's a fairly new policy that started after covid.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

At my agency, yes, we're required to telework on snow days, even if you don't telework any other time. It's a fairly new policy that started after covid.

You are required to work on snow days if you have a telework agreement on file. Those are voluntary but most employees would have signed a situational telework agreement during Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

At my agency, yes, we're required to telework on snow days, even if you don't telework any other time. It's a fairly new policy that started after covid.

You are required to work on snow days if you have a telework agreement on file. Those are voluntary but most employees would have signed a situational telework agreement during Covid.

The claim is that the continuity of operations provisions can compel telework for weather closures even without a situational telework plan. Basically, the same way they made people telework during covid without telework agreements.

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This whole thing upsets me. If you have kids at home, they’ve already closed schools. And daycares follow school schedules. We are not allowed to telework with kids under 8 in the house. Basically “snow days” are just a waste of my annual leave and then I have to work late nights the rest of the week in order to make up all the work I delayed.

And why don’t teleworkers get 2 hour delays anymore either?? If everything is icy, it takes me longer to get my kids to daycare and back. Same reason we used to have delays commuting to work.

I just absolutely hate snow days as a parent. Oh and my fed spouse is essential and will have to go in unless they close all buildings. He has no telework.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

Np. Prior to Covid I tried this. I refused to sign a situational telework agreement. I wasn’t allowed to telework at all except on snow days when I was required. I had kids so I couldn’t telework on snow days. Boss and management told me I was required to sign the situational telework agreement and had to take my laptop home if the forecast was bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, DCPS just called it CLOSED. When is OPM going to call the ball?

OPM has posted that DC is closed.

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I thought snow days are now virtual days so neither teachers nor kids get time "off"?

I understand the risk to large population but we'd be fine walking to school (almost a 3/4mile).

If I have to take a day of leave because my kid is home then I'm taking a fun day. Not sticking my 6 year old in front of their chromebook. We will walk to some hills, go sledding, walk home, make hot chocolate and some hot lunch then watch a movie.
I'll log in while the movie is on if I feel like saving some hours or work at night once DH gets home.

They are more likely to call it because of technology. But that puts the onus on working parents to figure it out. They would not close for 3 inches 30 years ago.

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On the plus side, I don't have to worry about open or closed, because I telework anyhow. Win win

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a dangerous move for opm to rely on telework as the solution for bad weather given the many who can’t telework. I guess the rest of us don’t exist. Yay I get to lose more leave days!

Honestly though it’s on trend for fed govt . I’ve been feeling more and more every year that my non- telework fed job just hates parents and wants us all to quit.

There won’t be enough snow to warrant closing the government. Employees without telework agreements would get a snow day if the weather was worse but it’s been a few years since we’ve had a decent snowstorm.

It’s a joke for those of us who can’t telework- over in the school forums everyone’s saying to get your contingency plan in place because it will be too dangerous for teachers to drive to school but it’s fine for the rest of us to drive to work?

I’m boiling. It is totally unfair. Teachers (public employees, mind you) get a free day while we have to risk our lives either commuting in, burn a day of leave, or try to balance the kids, who’ll want to play in the snow, while productively WFHing. Either OPM needs to reevaluate its priorities and commitment to families, or schools need to be the last service to close.

Stop whining. As feds we get a ton of leave plus more telework than most of our peers. One of the only drawbacks to these perks is we are expected to be prepared to telework during what used to be snow days. Would you rather go back to the office 4/5 days a week like we did 20 years ago? There is nothing unfair about our situation

Absolutely. No question.

Yeah me too, but the same people who complain that they have to telework when there is snow aren’t complaining about their 4 days a week of telework the rest of the year. Send us all back to the office, I’m good with that.

Are you required to telework? It’s voluntary at my agency. I’m not giving up multiple telework days per week for the chance of a snow day every now and then.

Np. Prior to Covid I tried this. I refused to sign a situational telework agreement. I wasn’t allowed to telework at all except on snow days when I was required. I had kids so I couldn’t telework on snow days. Boss and management told me I was required to sign the situational telework agreement and had to take my laptop home if the forecast was bad.

I ran into this as a supervisor. While I was told by my management that everyone needed a situational telework agreement, HR conceded that they couldn't be made mandatory. HR did note, however, that we could mandate telework even without a telework agreement, though.

[Anonymous]

Govt is closed. OPM updated.