JMU vs. Colby

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

Are you brain dead?

Happy Holidays

Loving your school and having pride is one thing.
Denying the reality and being delusional is another.

No dog in this fight. Try to back up your claims of delusion next time.

If you are serious, you do not advise your kid on college applications.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

22,000 kids at JMU also fit the bill.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

That is your opinion. If a kid wants to ski Wintergreen Resort is close to JMU.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

That is your opinion. If a kid wants to ski Wintergreen Resort is close to JMU.

Hmmm…again, if skiing is very important, no sane person would pick JMU over Colby.

Are folks really going to try to argue this? That a kid that wants to be near good skiing would pick JMU and its closeness to Wintergreen resorts and their 25 slopes vs Sugarloaf and its 176 slopes?

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Please stop. A 3rd tier VA state school is just not happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop. A 3rd tier VA state school is just not happening.

1. Tiers are not real
2. 22,000 JMU kids would think otherwise

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

That is your opinion. If a kid wants to ski Wintergreen Resort is close to JMU.

Hmmm…again, if skiing is very important, no sane person would pick JMU over Colby.

Are folks really going to try to argue this? That a kid that wants to be near good skiing would pick JMU and its closeness to Wintergreen resorts and their 25 slopes vs Sugarloaf and its 176 slopes?

You can ski near JMU

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Which mountains surround William and Mary?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Which mountains surround William and Mary?

What does skiing have to do with undergraduate education? It is, or should be, an irrelevant criterion for anyone going on to higher education to actually get an education as opposed to engage in recreation.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Which mountains surround William and Mary?

What does skiing have to do with undergraduate education? It is, or should be, an irrelevant criterion for anyone going on to higher education to actually get an education as opposed to engage in recreation.

Yes- the Colby booster was trying to claim they had better skiing.