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Anonymous
Done with intent. JMU upgraded - its previous conference had W&M, UR, Villanova, etc. but was Div 1A |
Anonymous
| What is a Colby? |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Yeah, nothing against Colby here, but Goldman would be the opposite of a draw for me. To each his own, though! |
Anonymous
What is measured is “PhD or terminal degree in their field”. It’s like ticking the “most rigorous” box on a college app. In whatever field, do they have the highest degree? Good colleges report this number as 95%+. Colby and WM were cited. But check ant T50 National LAC or U. A BA/MA/ RN/ Registered Dietician, etc shouldn’t be teaching at a real college. And certainly wouldn’t be researching. Why is JMU so low? |
Anonymous
Meh, this really isn't a big deal. -dp |
Anonymous
+1 The insecurity on the part of the Colby booster, posting over and over, is quite staggering. |
Anonymous
JMU is at about 75-80 terminal because of one word - growth. JMU is enrolling 5,000 freshman a year compared to 3,000 20 years ago. |
Anonymous
Also explains why current admit rate is like 76 per cent of almost 40,000 applications. In additional yield is down to about 20 percent given so many options. Similar schools like Miami OH are experiencing the same growing pains. Miami has a 90 percent acceptance rate despite its history as a “public Ivy” |
Anonymous
Interesting. Sounds like you completely made up your "experience" with JMU. I've had two kids go to JMU and neither were in frats/sororities. Both had a robust group of like-minded (non-Greek) friends, challenging majors (humanities *gasp*!), help with internships and jobs through the career center. You sound like a complete pill, to be honest. |
Anonymous
It's a delicious cheese that when combined with Monterey Jack becomes "Colby Jack." |
Anonymous
+2 Another interesting fact from those links: Colby's ROI is 268. JMU's is 117. Too funny. |
Anonymous
It’s only a big deal if you want to insist JMU isn’t TA dependent (like most large Us) and you keep saying 98% of their classes are taught by professors. If you are going to make this point, be honest about the fact that at most good colleges, 95%+ of professors already have a terminal degree. At JMU, they are having, say, a Communications MA teach 2 classes as the “instructor of record” and calling him a professor because he also took some education classes. https://www.jmu.edu/commstudies/ma/assistantships.shtm Psychology PhD candidates can be TAs for 3 years https://www.jmu.edu/academic-affairs/_documents/uga-guidelines-sample-agreement.pdf Kinesiology is dependent on TAs https://www.jmu.edu/chbs/kinesiology/assistantships.shtml https://www.jmu.edu/academic-affairs/_documents/uga-guidelines-sample-agreement.pdf Etc, etc. Like many State Us, JMU is also TA dependent, although it appears they classify their TAs as “professors” to pretend otherwise, and then take the rankings hit down the road for their “professors” not having completed their PhDs. Now that USNWR no longer measures undergrad teaching as a factor in rankings, I expect JMU will stop classifying TAs as professors and we will be shocked to discover that many intro classes are taught by TAs. And 95%+ of their actual professors do have terminal degrees. Why does this matter, when JMU is doing exactly what all the other large VA State schools do. First, because someone on this thread insists JMU barely. uses TAs at all. That’s just not true. And second, because JMU is manipulating data to say they don’t use TAs. Which isn’t being honest with potential students, who may not dig deeper or notice how low the percentage of “professors” with terminal degrees is. |
Anonymous
And JMU is accommodating that growth by using TAs to teach intro sections. That isn’t necessarily a problem, but they should be up front with prospective students and parents about it. |
Anonymous
In what? Business, maybe. Health careers and fine arts? Probably not. |