Fun fact of the day, independent private schools make up 40% of student enrollment at most Ivies...where is the equity?

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Anonymous wrote:Independent private schools (not the Mary O'Mary's Catholic/parochial school for girls and boys type that middle and lower middle class families send their kids to), comprise 40% of the student body at most Ivy League schools.

Where is the outrage in the name of equity? Where are the protests? The changemakers? Maybe there will be a sit-in at Harvard this admissions season, definitely at Brown. Rise up, no equity, no peace...

Bueller...Bueller...

there is no such thing as equity. Stop that nonsense. And it is a good thing there is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would you ever think that the current admissions system is equitable? It has never been and likely will never be. Get over it.

Because these institutions live, breathe and die for DEI. Yet here we are.

They are mocking us.

No, they pretend to live, breathe and ie for DEI.

They aren’t mocking you, they are lying to you.

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The admissions offices at private high schools look for the exact same thing as admissions offices at elite colleges. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Independent private schools (not the Mary O'Mary's Catholic/parochial school for girls and boys type that middle and lower middle class families send their kids to), comprise 40% of the student body at most Ivy League schools.

Where is the outrage in the name of equity? Where are the protests? The changemakers? Maybe there will be a sit-in at Harvard this admissions season, definitely at Brown. Rise up, no equity, no peace...

Bueller...Bueller...

Presumably the independent private schools are also enrolling with equity in mind, so can you say which kids from the private schools are matriculating to Ivies?

+1 For example, all of the Big 3 privates in DC award financial aid to over 20% of their students, so presumably many of those students are included in the 40% OP refers to (but doesn't cite the source for the number). Given these colleges' current focus on FGLI and other institutional priorities, it's possible these students might even be overrepresented in the Ivy acceptances from privates.

Do you think 20% of the students at insert-your-school-name-here come from families making less the $65k/yr for a family of four?

Really?

I specifically cited the Big 3 in DC as an example. Google any of them and "financial aid." Do you think they're publicly lying? My kids are at one of these, and I was honestly surprised the percentage was that low.

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Anonymous wrote:Independent private schools (not the Mary O'Mary's Catholic/parochial school for girls and boys type that middle and lower middle class families send their kids to), comprise 40% of the student body at most Ivy League schools.

Where is the outrage in the name of equity? Where are the protests? The changemakers? Maybe there will be a sit-in at Harvard this admissions season, definitely at Brown. Rise up, no equity, no peace...

Bueller...Bueller...

Presumably the independent private schools are also enrolling with equity in mind, so can you say which kids from the private schools are matriculating to Ivies?

+1 For example, all of the Big 3 privates in DC award financial aid to over 20% of their students, so presumably many of those students are included in the 40% OP refers to (but doesn't cite the source for the number). Given these colleges' current focus on FGLI and other institutional priorities, it's possible these students might even be overrepresented in the Ivy acceptances from privates.

Do you think 20% of the students at insert-your-school-name-here come from families making less the $65k/yr for a family of four?

Really?

I specifically cited the Big 3 in DC as an example. Google any of them and "financial aid." Do you think they're publicly lying? My kids are at one of these, and I was honestly surprised the percentage was that low.

No, they aren’t lying because it would be too easy to prove they were. But do you really think that 20% of the families in any of these schools qualify for QuestBridge? No, a lot of the FA the schools give out goes to families living well above the QB income level. Well above.

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That’s actually fairly low. When I attended decades ago, it was more like 50%.

It tracks with the percentage of full pay families of students.

It’s like the private school version of the 4% rule.

Need blind is red marketing herring. It has to be. It’s not a financially sustainable practice.

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It must be so much easier to be a right winger - nobody can say you’re a hypocrite because they all assume you’re an a**hole

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Independent private schools (not the Mary O'Mary's Catholic/parochial school for girls and boys type that middle and lower middle class families send their kids to), comprise 40% of the student body at most Ivy League schools.

Where is the outrage in the name of equity? Where are the protests? The changemakers? Maybe there will be a sit-in at Harvard this admissions season, definitely at Brown. Rise up, no equity, no peace...

Bueller...Bueller...

Presumably the independent private schools are also enrolling with equity in mind, so can you say which kids from the private schools are matriculating to Ivies?

+1 For example, all of the Big 3 privates in DC award financial aid to over 20% of their students, so presumably many of those students are included in the 40% OP refers to (but doesn't cite the source for the number). Given these colleges' current focus on FGLI and other institutional priorities, it's possible these students might even be overrepresented in the Ivy acceptances from privates.

Do you think 20% of the students at insert-your-school-name-here come from families making less the $65k/yr for a family of four?

Really?

I specifically cited the Big 3 in DC as an example. Google any of them and "financial aid." Do you think they're publicly lying? My kids are at one of these, and I was honestly surprised the percentage was that low.

No, they aren’t lying because it would be too easy to prove they were. But do you really think that 20% of the families in any of these schools qualify for QuestBridge? No, a lot of the FA the schools give out goes to families living well above the QB income level. Well above.

NP, but where did the PP claim the students getting financial aid at the DC privates qualify for Questbridge?

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I'm confused. If 40% come from privates, that means 60% come from public schools, which makes them the majority. What's the issue here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. If 40% come from privates, that means 60% come from public schools, which makes them the majority. What's the issue here?

It's not proportional. Really, you have to ask this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would you ever think that the current admissions system is equitable? It has never been and likely will never be. Get over it.

Because these institutions live, breathe and die for DEI. Yet here we are.

They are mocking us.

No, they pretend to live, breathe and ie for DEI.

They aren’t mocking you, they are lying to you.

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very cute you think these institutions "live, breathe, and die for DEI." Maybe they "live, breathe, and die for DEI" in regard to the optics, but snort if you think they do in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Let the highest achieving kids get in and stop with the DEI nonsense. Just because your kid is disadvantaged and can barely read doesn’t mean they should go to Harvard.

I’d rather have a driven kid from an inner city or Appalachian high school that barely sends anyone to college and succeeds despite low expectations over someone with higher stats who’s come from generations of advantage and high expectations. No matter how much you may want it to be, college has never been and should not be a simple algorithm if GPA + SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. If 40% come from privates, that means 60% come from public schools, which makes them the majority. What's the issue here?

Private school graduates are less than 9% of U.S. high school graduates each year.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. If 40% come from privates, that means 60% come from public schools, which makes them the majority. What's the issue here?

Private school graduates are less than 9% of U.S. high school graduates each year.

9 orange beads in a jar with 91 blue beads. Harvard picks 10 out of the jar: 4 orange and 6 blue.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. If 40% come from privates, that means 60% come from public schools, which makes them the majority. What's the issue here?

Private school graduates are less than 9% of U.S. high school graduates each year.

Yes but 40% of the top students are in private high school. Public schools will take anyone, while private schools have admissions standards.