What is the student walkout for on 11/29 at Sherwood?

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Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

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Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

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By the way, this thread is about Sherwood, but I think you'll see something similar at other schools also.

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Anonymous wrote:Just received a letter from the school about the planned student walkout—which neglects to say what it is for. It’s related to Israel/Gaza, but it doesn’t say what the goal of the walkout is.

Peace?

Taking sides? If so, which side?

Anyone know?

I just got it and checked on Instagram. It’s put on by the Muslim student association. So yes, they are taking And it’s pro Palestine. Interesting that there is no walk out when all of the hostages were taken and hundreds of people slaughtered by Hamas.

That’s what I suspected.

As a parent of a Jewish student, this is disappointing.

FTR, I’m our home, our stance is this:

All terrorism is bad.

Hamas is a terror group that attacked innocent civilians.

Innocent Palestinians are now suffering thanks to Hamas—and historically have suffered since Israel and Palestinians can’t seem to get along (despite years of attempts to negotiate).

It’s all terrible. And there’s no end in sight.

I’d rather see civil discourse on peacemaking than what looks like a pointless juvenile stunt that inevitably will prompt something negative.

This is the direct result of progressives taking control of MCPS and bringing critical theory into the curriculum. Palestinians are seen as the oppressed and, therefore can do no wrong.

Can't really blame the kids. Since they've been in the school system, they've been told they need to stand up to injustice and engage in political action like protests, walk outs. In their eyes, they are fighting "white supremacist culture" and "colonizers." At their PD on 10/9, teachers were told they need to promote these type of student actions to change society. Don't blame the kids, blame MCPS central office for promoting, encouraging and allowing this to happen.

Agree.

Why would we 'blame' anyone for teaching kids to stand up for injustice?

Because that can easily be politicized. And if students have been brainwashed by far left politics as they have been here in MoCo, it leads to things like students protesting in favor of Hamas, a terrorist organization.

No one here is protesting FOR Hamas. People on the internet are too stupid to distinguish between an entire ethnic group/nationality and a terrorist organization. A man in Vermont shot 3 Palestinian students.

You think the kids walking out aren’t being manipulated? They totally are. You have no idea of who is actually organizing the walkout (and that goes for any pro-Israel walkout too). This is how naive kids end up chanting Hamas slogans or even waving a Hamas flag, or holding up an extremely offensive poster (star of david going into the trash). Because they are being manipulated and don’t actually understand what they are doing and saying. I wouldn’t bar my child from walking out, but I would urge them to be very careful about it.

It's almost like critical theory IS in fact being taught in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

[Anonymous]

When I was in HS, all the smokers would smoke across the street from school. What they were doing was not illegal (smoking was allowed from age 16), but against school policy to smoke on school grounds. They never got in trouble because school policy did not apply to what you do off school grounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Do you know where Sherwood is, and/or have you looked at a map?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

How do you know they don't have relatives who were killed by the Israelis?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

I mean, yes, the whole point of protesting is to disrupt. A protest that nobody notices is an ineffective protest. I don't know why you think it would be better for Sherwood students to trespass on private property for their protest, though. Or maybe you think they should block the road?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was in HS, all the smokers would smoke across the street from school. What they were doing was not illegal (smoking was allowed from age 16), but against school policy to smoke on school grounds. They never got in trouble because school policy did not apply to what you do off school grounds.

Actually it can.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_v._Frederick

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

How do you know they don't have relatives who were killed by the Israelis?

What?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

I mean, yes, the whole point of protesting is to disrupt. A protest that nobody notices is an ineffective protest. I don't know why you think it would be better for Sherwood students to trespass on private property for their protest, though. Or maybe you think they should block the road?

Don't get so compulsively focused on the location. I don't really care where they do it or when as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. So I also think MCPS should discourage protests during the day. Instead they encourage protests and give SSL credit for doing so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Any protest, about any topic, has the potential for someone to use a slogan that someone could interpret as hate speech.

Which is why "hate speech" is protected by the first amendment.

However, PP has a point that MCPS can implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds. If I was these students, I'd protest right after school, and across the street from school so it's not on school property.

Not only can MCPS implement their own viewpoint-neutral policies for students while on school grounds, they actually have done so.

Also, where exactly do you think the Sherwood students should protest?

after school? before school?

That's when. The question was where.

Across the street, off school property.

Exactly. I completely oppose what their doing (protesting for Hamas) but I completely support their right to do it as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. But that's the whole point of protesting....to disrupt....to give yourself some good Instagram material. Protesting across the street at 2:35 doesn't carry the same level of woke street cred.

I mean, yes, the whole point of protesting is to disrupt. A protest that nobody notices is an ineffective protest. I don't know why you think it would be better for Sherwood students to trespass on private property for their protest, though. Or maybe you think they should block the road?

Don't get so compulsively focused on the location. I don't really care where they do it or when as long as it doesn't disrupt the school day. So I also think MCPS should discourage protests during the day. Instead they encourage protests and give SSL credit for doing so.

For example, on school property, during advisory!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a call for a continued bilateral ceasefire. If you interpret that as "pro Palestine," that's not on the students.

For what it is worth, within Israel, calls for a ceasefire are seen as pro-hostage. It's only in the USA that asking for a ceasefire is seen as somehow uniquely pro Palestinian.

If you think the rally will be limited to a single message that reflects a thoughtful foreign policy take, good luck to you.

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I’m the pp who provided a summary of how our interfaith home feels about the ongoing/never ending conflict—not because I think my perspective should dictate a student walkout, but rather to preemptively state I’m not blindly pro-Israel and most certainly not anti-Palestine/islamaphobic.

Like this pp said, I’m concerned this will quickly go off the rails and needlessly become an antisemitic rally. Why? Because there are far too many recent videos of such situations online…particularly at schools.

If they just protest the war and promote peace, that would be fine. If they showcase Palestinian and Jewish students hand in hand calling for a ceasefire, awesome! But if they start chanting anything antisemitic, then that’s not okay.

Mcps wouldn’t tolerate anything remotely anti-fill in the blank with any other group.

Wrong. Mcps is totally Anti Asian and has been for decades. In all its policies and it's complete lack of support for the racist stuff that happens to Asian kids everyday. Ask me how I know.

So welcome to the club.

As an Asian American parent I'd just like them to stop encouraging protesting altogether. That's what weekends are for, a long with your church, synagogue, mosque, temple. Unless it's for something school related (gun control anyone?), it's not something that should be school sanctioned.