Ozempic death - ileus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plus the muscle atrophy and having to take this product with no end

I’ve been on my statin since 24 (familial high cholesterol) and I was told then that I’ll be on it for the rest of my life. Why is this suddenly ‘Ermagawd! Lifetime medication!’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

You know what actually has a much higher incidence of stomach paralysis?
Type 2 Diabetes.

Also, GLP-1 is a naturally occurring hormone in the body.

You don’t want to use, you don’t have to. Don’t even need to consider it, to the extent you want to.

But lets be reasonable about talking about the associated risks and not place things solely at the feet of this medication when there are other implications that should be discussed in the same breadth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

What an unhinged and strange off topic rant. Is this satire or some kind of copy pasta? Very weirded out by how you admire your bowel movements aesthetically

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

Oh man, I bet your farts are so smelly . Anyway

I enjoy being able to eat whatever I want on Ozempic and still lose weight and be healthier. I don’t want to just eat walnuts and berries and probiotic foods. I hate broccoli. I still enjoy food very much; in fact, much more than I used to because I can enjoy the foods I love in more appropriate amounts with no distressing thoughts or emotions. I can sit down to pizza with my family/friends without being stressed out that there won’t be enough for me to have enough to be full, or pressure myself to limit myself to two pieces so no one will judge me. I can enjoy a few bites of cheesecake without worry that I won’t be able to stop and I’ll eat the whole thing. If I’m craving a regular coke I’m satisfied with a small and usually forget about it after a few sips so don’t have to feel guilt about having too much sugar knowing how bad it is for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find the reaction to GLP-1 to be really similar to the reaction to the birth control pill. I predict they'll become similarly common and accepted but, also like BCPs, never free of hand-wringing from a certain quarter.

They are finally doing more research into the bcp and the changes it causes including increased incidence of depression and anxiety.

Thanks for proving my point.

Everything has risks, including inaction. It's helpful you bring up depression and anxiety, which are common, potentially serious side-effects of pregnancy (PPD, PPA) as well as PMD. So yes, hormonal birth control can sometimes have similar effects to pregnancy hormones -- and also regulating hormonal cycles and preventing pregnancy can reduce the incidence of serious hormonal depression and anxiety. And yet we wring our hands about the "unnatural" hormonal med that can be easily changed or discontinued, rather than recognizing it's helping to prevent very serious illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

Oh man, I bet your farts are so smelly . Anyway

I enjoy being able to eat whatever I want on Ozempic and still lose weight and be healthier. I don’t want to just eat walnuts and berries and probiotic foods. I hate broccoli. I still enjoy food very much; in fact, much more than I used to because I can enjoy the foods I love in more appropriate amounts with no distressing thoughts or emotions. I can sit down to pizza with my family/friends without being stressed out that there won’t be enough for me to have enough to be full, or pressure myself to limit myself to two pieces so no one will judge me. I can enjoy a few bites of cheesecake without worry that I won’t be able to stop and I’ll eat the whole thing. If I’m craving a regular coke I’m satisfied with a small and usually forget about it after a few sips so don’t have to feel guilt about having too much sugar knowing how bad it is for me.

I do fart and belch much more than I did before a fiber fueled diet, but it’s not terribly smelly at all. I’m not deluded about this, I have a very keen olfactory system and get offended by nasty farts but I find in my case at least that minimal animals foods means less smelly farts.

If you learned more about metabolic syndrome and nutritional biochemistry, you’d know that losing some weight and still eating the same crap food but less of it doesn’t point to much improved health.

There are a great many skinny fat Americans - people of normal weight who are metabolically very unhealthy and suffering insulin resistance even in the absence of overweight or obesity, and that means that on the inside there is still damage happening to the heart and other organs while you are eating pizza and cheesecake and wearing a size 8 or 10 or 12.

Size and weight are not the only indicators of health and normal weight seemingly healthy women drop dead of massive heart attacks in midlife every single day. That’s why Ozempic and Wegovy et al. are simply not the answer.

Hippocrates said food is medicine. Thousands of years later all the science is revealing that it is THE most important medicine.

[Anonymous]

And for the record, this is my thread, I started it. I think I can contribute whatever I want to it, especially when it is the relevant argument that as a society with a medical system being rapidly bankrupted by the symptoms of industrial processed food diets, we should promote big broccoli over big Pharma if we want to have anything left to leave to our kids.

[Anonymous]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12720987/amp/americans-died-ileus-ozempic-wegovy-weight-loss-effects.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

Oh man, I bet your farts are so smelly . Anyway

I enjoy being able to eat whatever I want on Ozempic and still lose weight and be healthier. I don’t want to just eat walnuts and berries and probiotic foods. I hate broccoli. I still enjoy food very much; in fact, much more than I used to because I can enjoy the foods I love in more appropriate amounts with no distressing thoughts or emotions. I can sit down to pizza with my family/friends without being stressed out that there won’t be enough for me to have enough to be full, or pressure myself to limit myself to two pieces so no one will judge me. I can enjoy a few bites of cheesecake without worry that I won’t be able to stop and I’ll eat the whole thing. If I’m craving a regular coke I’m satisfied with a small and usually forget about it after a few sips so don’t have to feel guilt about having too much sugar knowing how bad it is for me.

I do fart and belch much more than I did before a fiber fueled diet, but it’s not terribly smelly at all. I’m not deluded about this, I have a very keen olfactory system and get offended by nasty farts but I find in my case at least that minimal animals foods means less smelly farts.

If you learned more about metabolic syndrome and nutritional biochemistry, you’d know that losing some weight and still eating the same crap food but less of it doesn’t point to much improved health.

There are a great many skinny fat Americans - people of normal weight who are metabolically very unhealthy and suffering insulin resistance even in the absence of overweight or obesity, and that means that on the inside there is still damage happening to the heart and other organs while you are eating pizza and cheesecake and wearing a size 8 or 10 or 12.

Size and weight are not the only indicators of health and normal weight seemingly healthy women drop dead of massive heart attacks in midlife every single day. That’s why Ozempic and Wegovy et al. are simply not the answer.

Hippocrates said food is medicine. Thousands of years later all the science is revealing that it is THE most important medicine.

Actually, if you were truly doing your research into these meds and not just parroting broadcast news sites, you would know that studies are showing that Semaglutide has been associated with a 20% risk reduction of “serious cardiovascular complications”.

I even found CNBC talking about it, since that’s your preferred news: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/11/11/weight-loss-drug-wegovy-slashes-risk-of-serious-heart-complications.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

Oh man, I bet your farts are so smelly . Anyway

I enjoy being able to eat whatever I want on Ozempic and still lose weight and be healthier. I don’t want to just eat walnuts and berries and probiotic foods. I hate broccoli. I still enjoy food very much; in fact, much more than I used to because I can enjoy the foods I love in more appropriate amounts with no distressing thoughts or emotions. I can sit down to pizza with my family/friends without being stressed out that there won’t be enough for me to have enough to be full, or pressure myself to limit myself to two pieces so no one will judge me. I can enjoy a few bites of cheesecake without worry that I won’t be able to stop and I’ll eat the whole thing. If I’m craving a regular coke I’m satisfied with a small and usually forget about it after a few sips so don’t have to feel guilt about having too much sugar knowing how bad it is for me.

I do fart and belch much more than I did before a fiber fueled diet, but it’s not terribly smelly at all. I’m not deluded about this, I have a very keen olfactory system and get offended by nasty farts but I find in my case at least that minimal animals foods means less smelly farts.

If you learned more about metabolic syndrome and nutritional biochemistry, you’d know that losing some weight and still eating the same crap food but less of it doesn’t point to much improved health.

There are a great many skinny fat Americans - people of normal weight who are metabolically very unhealthy and suffering insulin resistance even in the absence of overweight or obesity, and that means that on the inside there is still damage happening to the heart and other organs while you are eating pizza and cheesecake and wearing a size 8 or 10 or 12.

Size and weight are not the only indicators of health and normal weight seemingly healthy women drop dead of massive heart attacks in midlife every single day. That’s why Ozempic and Wegovy et al. are simply not the answer.

Hippocrates said food is medicine. Thousands of years later all the science is revealing that it is THE most important medicine.

I'm not the PP, but Wegovy is actually helping me eat healthfully. It has taken away my sugar craving, as well as any desire to drink alcohol. For the first time in my life, I can eat a reasonable meal (like oatmeal for breakfast) and feel satiated with one serving. Prior to Wegovy, I carefully counted calories (I recognized I got more bang for my buck by eating protein over carbs, or filling up on fruits and vegetables), but I never felt satiated -- I was always hungry, even with the fiber-rich foods that were supposed to fill me up. For the first time in my entire life, I feel like a normal person who isn't thinking about food all the time. Yes, there are risks -- as there are with any medication -- and I keep a careful eye on that. But because of my weight loss, my inflammation is down and I feel so much better than before.

[Anonymous]

I wonder why these anti-GLP1 ranters never rant about blood pressure medications, anti-anxiety medications, and cholesterol medications? Why is not a moral failing to take those medications to improve your health, but it is to lose weight?

Why is no one going on and on about how they cured their heart disease with berries, walnuts and broccoli? I’m on the health and medicine forum every day and no one chimes in with all this anecdotal stories about how they cured their heart disease with just exercise and change in diet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of heated opinions in this thread.

I am morbidly obese, a weight gain that began in my early 30s and ramped up significantly in my 40s following surgeries which put me into early perimenopause and caused me to develop an absorption disorder which led to a chronic B1 vitamin deficiency and serious neurological problems as well as very significant sarcopenia, until I had the muscle mass of a very elderly person and lots of fat to carry around. Just really metabolically sick in so many ways.

I’ve been working on restoring my health after choosing not to pursue weight loss surgery or medication. I studied nutritional biochemistry in some depth over the last year and have read a number of books by MDs who are focused on integrative medicine and health through nutrition.

In recent months I’ve transitioned to a plant heavy diet with a focus on phytonutrient loading my meals. I’ve purged most processed foods and take out foods with occasional exceptions since I’m not perfect and do still struggle with emotional eating.

The changes to my health have been dramatic. I’m losing weight slowly but I’m okay with it because it’s the healthiest way to lose. I’m fascinated by how focusing on feeding the bugs in my gut and building a diet all around that - but still delicious! - had shut down my food cravings almost entirely. Instead of thinking about food all the time I often forget altogether- but that comes from adhering to a daily intake of the RDA and more of fiber, with a variety of plants foods to feed all my gut bacteria which is rebuilding my health in all kinds of ways including mood, skin, hair etc.

Diet is EVERYTHING- but it isn’t about calories. It’s about the quality of foods you are putting in your body. Every day more and more science it proving this. Morality is irrelevant, but it IS true that food can cause addiction just like other drugs - neuroscience proves this. Casein is an opiate. Processed foods are scientifically designed to addict us, period.

The reason I am against these drugs is that I would rather wake up every morning and have a beautiful dump created by a fiber fueled diet and watch my body naturally release fat and inflammation via a beautiful natural diet rather than take a drug which can cause stomach paralysis and a host of other related issues that are very negative to gut health and can even result in death. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/05/weight-loss-drugs-wegovy-ozempic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html

Broccoli, on the other hand, is very unlikely to kill me. And the thing is, I love food like most people do. I don’t want a solution that destroys my appetite and makes eating a nauseating experience. I would much rather learn a new way of eating, as I’ve been doing the last several months.

My fridge is currently jam packed with produce and it’s actually getting eaten, not wasted. It will take me another year - 18 months to lose all that I’ve gained, but I don’t anticipate any issues because I don’t crave the other way of eating anymore. My brain has been rewired by months of eating walnuts and broccoli and berries etc. every single day without fail.

Oh man, I bet your farts are so smelly . Anyway

I enjoy being able to eat whatever I want on Ozempic and still lose weight and be healthier. I don’t want to just eat walnuts and berries and probiotic foods. I hate broccoli. I still enjoy food very much; in fact, much more than I used to because I can enjoy the foods I love in more appropriate amounts with no distressing thoughts or emotions. I can sit down to pizza with my family/friends without being stressed out that there won’t be enough for me to have enough to be full, or pressure myself to limit myself to two pieces so no one will judge me. I can enjoy a few bites of cheesecake without worry that I won’t be able to stop and I’ll eat the whole thing. If I’m craving a regular coke I’m satisfied with a small and usually forget about it after a few sips so don’t have to feel guilt about having too much sugar knowing how bad it is for me.

I do fart and belch much more than I did before a fiber fueled diet, but it’s not terribly smelly at all. I’m not deluded about this, I have a very keen olfactory system and get offended by nasty farts but I find in my case at least that minimal animals foods means less smelly farts.

If you learned more about metabolic syndrome and nutritional biochemistry, you’d know that losing some weight and still eating the same crap food but less of it doesn’t point to much improved health.

There are a great many skinny fat Americans - people of normal weight who are metabolically very unhealthy and suffering insulin resistance even in the absence of overweight or obesity, and that means that on the inside there is still damage happening to the heart and other organs while you are eating pizza and cheesecake and wearing a size 8 or 10 or 12.

Size and weight are not the only indicators of health and normal weight seemingly healthy women drop dead of massive heart attacks in midlife every single day. That’s why Ozempic and Wegovy et al. are simply not the answer.

Hippocrates said food is medicine. Thousands of years later all the science is revealing that it is THE most important medicine.

Wow, you really are insufferable. I don’t understand why you are speaking as though you are a health and wellness expert because what you’re doing makes you feel great. Guess what? What I’m doing makes me feel great. But I’m not here acting like what I’m doing is the answer and what you’re doing isn’t. Who do you think you are to tell me what is working for me is “simply not the answer”? I would never say the same to you.

Most people cannot or will not adhere to a lifestyle like yours. Most people can’t afford to eat nuts and berries every single day or eat a high volume of fermented and/or fibrous foods. A plant based diet with minimal processed food is not attainable to most people in today’s food and lifestyle environment. Those people might have insurance that will cover a GLP1 drug. That’s just the reality of the late stage capitalist hellscape we live in, and I agree that it’s f*cked up. But it’s not changing in our lifetime. Why on earth would you spend your time actively discouraging those people from choosing an accessible option to improve their personal health and quality of life, insisting that a regimen that is impossible for them to follow is the only right answer?

Furthermore, why do you assume I know nothing about metabolic syndrome? The reason my doctor and I decided to try ozempic in the first place was to treat insulin resistance, prevent worsening metabolic dysfunction and diabetes and reduce unwanted symptoms of PCOS. Why do you assume that I’m using weight as a health marker? Losing 50 pounds effortlessly has been fun as hell but that’s just a bonus.

In the year and a half since I started Ozempic:

- My insulin sensitivity has improved to almost ideal levels
- Male pattern hair loss has halted and started to fill back in
- the thick dark hair on my arms has turned much finer and blonde
- I don’t retain water and wake up with an unrecognizably puffy face
- my liver has shrunk and is visibly less fatty on ultrasound than it was before and my always borderline high liver enzymes are down as low as they can be
- lipids have improved (this is one area that I know I could move the needle more with a different diet.)
- My skin glows, I no longer have fungal acne, problems with yeast in my armpits or intramammary folds, or keratosis pilaris.
- I have more energy, I sleep better and my parasomnia episodes are much milder and more seldom
- Movement is so much freer and painless. My hips used to scream after a couple of miles walking, now I can go at least 6 before I start to feel it. It’s not an effort just to roll over in bed or tie my shoes
- My sex life is astonishingly better

Beyond that, I am happier than I have ever been and developing self-confidence I never thought I would have. Frankly, that alone would be enough for me even if I didn’t have objective markers telling me I am healthier. And I didn’t have to eat a single walnut or turn into a self-important braggart who talks about her beautiful bowel movements on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:Glad you found something that works for you to be healthy. Try not judging others who choose a different method.

Everyone has the right to choose what's right for their body

Please point to the place in my post where I judged anyone else?

You can’t, of course. That’s just your stuff projecting.

I’m a morbidly obese middle aged woman who has struggled with food addiction since suffering childhood traumas too many and awful to go into, compounded by adult trauma as well. I don’t judge anyone.

But there IS a cure for metabolic disorder and all the associated symptoms (that we call diseases but which are actually symptoms) which doesn’t involve any pharmaceuticals. It’s food. The science is undeniable.

I do think that as a matter of public health we should be funding the resources people need to learn to eat right (something many MDs are confused about, they don’t teach nutrition in medical schools shockingly given the epidemic of obesity) and to cope with the myriad factors that feed eating disorders. However this funding would go to people, to nutritional education and support and therapy and support groups etc. and those resources don’t have the lobbying power that Pharma and Ag does.

Our system is sick, and we are all victims of it. I don’t judge anyone for that, but I think people should have the same supports to choose the healthiest option as they do to choose options that can destroy their bodies and mental health. If you do the deep dive on long term stats for bariatric surgery and weight loss drugs, the outcomes are not great. They may reduce rates of symptoms of the underlying problem - obesity, heart issues, etc. - but they aren’t really promoting healthy vitality. They are symptom management, they aren’t a cure. Facts, not judgment.

They are generally much better than obesity on most but all measures.

In any event, you should come back and speak only after five years of successful maintenance. You are far too early in your process to be speaking authoritatively about beautiful dumps. 🤢

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why these anti-GLP1 ranters never rant about blood pressure medications, anti-anxiety medications, and cholesterol medications? Why is not a moral failing to take those medications to improve your health, but it is to lose weight?

Why is no one going on and on about how they cured their heart disease with berries, walnuts and broccoli? I’m on the health and medicine forum every day and no one chimes in with all this anecdotal stories about how they cured their heart disease with just exercise and change in diet?

I genuinely think the answer is that they are sociopaths. I mean my God we have one of them in here bragging about her bowel movements. That is not the post of a normal person.

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Anonymous wrote:And for the record, this is my thread, I started it. I think I can contribute whatever I want to it, especially when it is the relevant argument that as a society with a medical system being rapidly bankrupted by the symptoms of industrial processed food diets, we should promote big broccoli over big Pharma if we want to have anything left to leave to our kids.

Sure, but the rest of us can think you are kind of dumb based on your posts. You can’t make us not read your own posts and come to our own opinions of you.