Has anyone heard of a buyer agent lying about getting their offer officially accepted?

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Still absurd. That’s not real world. So much weird catastrophizing and jumping to conclusions and weird paranoia.

You really have no business buying a house, OP. You’re too emotional, suspicious and irrational.

Ok so clearly OP isn't cut out for home purchasing/ownership. OP is now involved in neither; the seller failed close the deal; and the buyer agent deserves nothing anyway.

Where's the problem?

The creation of this thread. Actually multiple threads. That were ultimately about nothing.

Actually it's a great lesson for sellers regarding not dicking around someone who is willing to pay your list price.

I'm sorry, what lesson is that? Because my takeaway from this weird tale is buyers are liars (which is a familiar refrain in the real estate industry, but I digress).

I mean, let's review ... OP wants to buy a house and puts an offer on a house and has a tantrum because seller didn't ratify the contract on some arbitrary timeframe in OP's mind and OP imagines that seller did unspeakable things with the offer. At the end of the day, seller does seek to ratify the offer with the terms as offered by OP, who, again, wants to buy the house ... but OP has a temper tantrum and walks because ... why, exactly? Meanwhile, OP still doesn't have a house.

Hmmm, my take away was the sellers and OP's agent told OP that they ratified the offer but they were having "technical issues" that prevented them from sending OP the ratified contract for 2 days. Then OP receives a contract signed 2 days after the time they claimed to sign it, proving they lied to her.

So what? Did the terms change?

Yes. One of the terms was to ratify it by X date. The sellers didn't meet those terms, then lied about it.

It sounds like there are some bitter realtors and sellers on this board. As someone who's sold homes before and will likely sell another in the Spring, I think these sellers and realtors are very foolish (in addition to dishonest). While I've bought homes with contentious negotiations and not cared, most buyers would be turned off with the dishonesty and poor treatment. I would never risk that as a seller, nor would I refuse to ratify a full-priced offer with the hopes of possibly getting just a little bit more.

The sellers had a full-priced offer. They lied about ratifying the offer to try to manufacture a bidding war and failed. Now they turned off the best buyer they had so their home is still sitting on the market. The realtor lied to her client instead of advocating for her and now lost a client and commission on a $1.35M deal. Fools.

No one is bitter, love. We just think OP and people like you are dumb phucks.

1) You sound very bitter, dripping with hostility.
2) Every home I've ever sold has closed for list price or more, while these (not dumb phucks?) sellers still have their house sitting on the market after playing stupid games with a full-priced buyer.
3) OP still has all her money so she can go find another house.

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Still absurd. That’s not real world. So much weird catastrophizing and jumping to conclusions and weird paranoia.

You really have no business buying a house, OP. You’re too emotional, suspicious and irrational.

Ok so clearly OP isn't cut out for home purchasing/ownership. OP is now involved in neither; the seller failed close the deal; and the buyer agent deserves nothing anyway.

Where's the problem?

The creation of this thread. Actually multiple threads. That were ultimately about nothing.

Actually it's a great lesson for sellers regarding not dicking around someone who is willing to pay your list price.

I'm sorry, what lesson is that? Because my takeaway from this weird tale is buyers are liars (which is a familiar refrain in the real estate industry, but I digress).

I mean, let's review ... OP wants to buy a house and puts an offer on a house and has a tantrum because seller didn't ratify the contract on some arbitrary timeframe in OP's mind and OP imagines that seller did unspeakable things with the offer. At the end of the day, seller does seek to ratify the offer with the terms as offered by OP, who, again, wants to buy the house ... but OP has a temper tantrum and walks because ... why, exactly? Meanwhile, OP still doesn't have a house.

Hmmm, my take away was the sellers and OP's agent told OP that they ratified the offer but they were having "technical issues" that prevented them from sending OP the ratified contract for 2 days. Then OP receives a contract signed 2 days after the time they claimed to sign it, proving they lied to her.

So what? Did the terms change?

Yes. One of the terms was to ratify it by X date. The sellers didn't meet those terms, then lied about it.

It sounds like there are some bitter realtors and sellers on this board. As someone who's sold homes before and will likely sell another in the Spring, I think these sellers and realtors are very foolish (in addition to dishonest). While I've bought homes with contentious negotiations and not cared, most buyers would be turned off with the dishonesty and poor treatment. I would never risk that as a seller, nor would I refuse to ratify a full-priced offer with the hopes of possibly getting just a little bit more.

The sellers had a full-priced offer. They lied about ratifying the offer to try to manufacture a bidding war and failed. Now they turned off the best buyer they had so their home is still sitting on the market. The realtor lied to her client instead of advocating for her and now lost a client and commission on a $1.35M deal. Fools.

That wasn’t actually a term, love.

And OP is back to square one in her house hunt. So everyone loses.

Everyone here needs to learn to take yes for an answer.

Ratification by the deadline was a term that OP added.

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OP was told there were technical difficulties with the docusign and the agent couldn’t open it. OP then asked why the agent couldn’t send over a new contract since the one they originally sent couldn’t be accessed. OP then gets the signed contract. It’s dated later than expected but for all OP knows the agent had to re-send it for a new signature, as they’d requested. Instead of being rational and asking the agent what happened the OP is now concocting all sorts of conspiracies in their head. I think the agent and seller are going to be better off with a different buyer.

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Anonymous wrote:OP was told there were technical difficulties with the docusign and the agent couldn’t open it. OP then asked why the agent couldn’t send over a new contract since the one they originally sent couldn’t be accessed. OP then gets the signed contract. It’s dated later than expected but for all OP knows the agent had to re-send it for a new signature, as they’d requested. Instead of being rational and asking the agent what happened the OP is now concocting all sorts of conspiracies in their head. I think the agent and seller are going to be better off with a different buyer.

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Irrational nut job

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OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. If anyone is curious I received a signed counter offer dated today at noon. My guess is they couldn’t get people to go above my full price offer. With that said I’m not signing anything and will be moving on from everyone.

What?! Why? You got what you wanted.

You are going to walk because of some fantasy you have about what you imagine happened and it pissed you off?

I don't understand either. What's wrong with taking two days to evaluate all the offers? It's not like your trying to buy a stroller off NextDoor. This is a major purchase/sale.

Because I accepted their counter immediately and was told I would have a contract to sign asap. I expected it the same day as verbally accepting it. They lied telling me it was coming 3 times and it didn't until days later. They didn't even sign the contract until yesterday. They dragged their feet and found out I'm not interested in games.

That is so weirdly spiteful, though. You wanted the house and you got your terms at the end of the day. But you’re going to have a hissy fit and walk because you don’t like that you THINK they wanted to play games? WTAF?

It's not 2022 anymore and their behavior is indicative of how the whole transaction would go.

That is completely absurd. Your petulance is dumb.

If I told you I'd get paperwork to you (so you could give me money and purchase my home) multiple times, over several days stringing you along and then didn't without any explanation what would you think? If I would have asked for repairs I'm sure they'd do the same, lie and string me along making the home buying process difficult. They could have asked if I'd be willing for them to hold off on making a decision, ask for best and highest or counter for more. Instead they accepted it and then went quiet trying to get more money. They already showed me they were liars.

To be honest, I think this case is more strongly made against YOUR agent than them, since your agent is the one communicating with you.
Maybe they countered through your agent and you accepted through your agent but it was your agent who *assumed* they would send a written signed/revised contract that day—but it’s possible that the verbal counter was just to see if you’d budge (and you did)…so they thought they’d try their luck and see if even higher offers came in over the weekend.
Your agent went along with that.
And even lied to you by saying they had SENT a signed document that realtor couldn’t open. Another lie which was proven untrue given that they signed at noon on a Monday.

Question is, are you on the hook for the deal given that you signed the first offer?
Your agent then

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

We needed our realtor to work on weekends or we wouldn't have been able to buy our house. It's part of the job folks.

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The lengths people are going to here to criticize OP:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either.

Not expecting a realtor to work on weekends? This is unheard of.

Anonymous wrote:You are a jerk.

Team OP-critic ladies and gentleman.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

LOL. Are you 12 and crashing a mommy group? Because you obviously don't understand much about the world of business. Realtors absolutely work when their potential clients are available...which is typically on weekends.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

We needed our realtor to work on weekends or we wouldn't have been able to buy our house. It's part of the job folks.

+1 Of course realtors work on weekends. Also two days is too long of a turn around time. Regardless, the sellers said they signed the contract - which turned out not to be true.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

We needed our realtor to work on weekends or we wouldn't have been able to buy our house. It's part of the job folks.

+1 Of course realtors work on weekends. Also two days is too long of a turn around time. Regardless, the sellers said they signed the contract - which turned out not to be true.

You don't "know" whether a contract was signed and then a new one had to be resigned. You can think is unlikely, but you don't "know".

Learn to separate facts from thoughts.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

We needed our realtor to work on weekends or we wouldn't have been able to buy our house. It's part of the job folks.

+1 Of course realtors work on weekends. Also two days is too long of a turn around time. Regardless, the sellers said they signed the contract - which turned out not to be true.

You don't "know" whether a contract was signed and then a new one had to be resigned. You can think is unlikely, but you don't "know".

Learn to separate facts from thoughts.

You're not making any sense.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, it took two days for OP to get a contract! Two weekend days….

I don’t work on weekends and I don’t expect my realtor to either. You are a jerk.

Ummmm. That makes no sense. Realtors definitely absolutely 100% work “on weekends”…

We needed our realtor to work on weekends or we wouldn't have been able to buy our house. It's part of the job folks.

+1 Of course realtors work on weekends. Also two days is too long of a turn around time. Regardless, the sellers said they signed the contract - which turned out not to be true.

You don't "know" whether a contract was signed and then a new one had to be resigned. You can think is unlikely, but you don't "know".

Learn to separate facts from thoughts.

What are you saying?

If the offer has the sellers signature, then OP is under contract.