Do you think Kate Middleton is genuine

[Anonymous]

Her giggling at William saying his favorite emoji is the eggplant? Yikes. The future king and queen of england, everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:She seems to be a bit of a snobby mean girl but hides it well. She seems genuine in her love for her kids although I’m not sure that extends to William any more.

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I think if she didn't make a life long commitment in front of the whole world and have being queen within her sight, she'd be divorced. She seems like a classic mean girl married to a pretentious bully. She's well suited in her position.

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Anonymous wrote:Knew her at Uni, she’s one of the most performative people I’ve ever known.

Maybe, but that's what makes her good at her job. Who knows or cares if any of it is genuine, she entered into the role voluntarily and seems to be handling it as well as possible. As long as she's good to her children (who don't have a choice in their life yet), I couldn't care less what her personal relationship is with the rest of the royal family. They're all adults and she chose this life knowing full well what it would take.

Not to get into a MM vs. Kate debate, but I think other royal figures like Diana and MM just didn't full comprehend what the lifestyle would entail until it was too late. Maybe they should have known better, but I can sympathize with someone in an unsustainable situation that can't get themselves out without millions of watching eyes. I think Kate was either forethinking enough to really get it, or has the mental fortitude to deal with it, even if it's harder than she expected. The British royal family seems like an absolute nightmare, and I don't think many of us could handle the pressure any better.

Because Kate married the future king, I think she was afforded a luxuries and support MM didn't get. I think the establishment was sure to not recreate the BS Diana had to deal with for Kate by sheltering her some and giving her tons of institutional support/training to make sure she succeeded. The tabloids are pretty soft of her when compared to MM and Diana. That significantly helps her public persona.

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Tabloids love to hate Americans in UK! MM was double - American and off-white.

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Anonymous wrote:Knew her at Uni, she’s one of the most performative people I’ve ever known.

Aren’t most 18-21 yr olds performative? Most, if not all, are trying to figure out who they are/ want to be.

I am much older than her so maybe I see her through a different lens but I think she is genuine in her love for her family, and the causes she supports.

[Anonymous]

She understands the assignment.

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Anonymous wrote:Or performative?

Dunno. Never met the woman.

[Anonymous]

I do think it’s a tough balance they think they have to achieve. Seeming relatable and “in touch” but still remaining on their podium to prove that they’re better than everyone bc of their royal blood. I don’t envy them in their position.

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People hold diana or Megan up as more genuine but I think they were also very performative—-I just think they interpreted the role differently. They thought what the monarchy really needed was a warm, relatable, emoting person. Kate follows the Queens lead in understanding that is not the role. If you give the public and press an emotive figure, they will tear you to shreds. The queen has that advice about never holding hands in public because the first time you show up not holding hands, it will be front page news (or something lke that). She survived for so many decades by understanding that it’s better to he perceived as too aloof than to have the press think your emotional and and personal life are up for discussion. I don’t know that I would want to hang out with Kate but I think she totally understands the role of the modern British monarch. Both diana and Megan seriously misjudged the role.

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Anonymous wrote:People hold diana or Megan up as more genuine but I think they were also very performative—-I just think they interpreted the role differently. They thought what the monarchy really needed was a warm, relatable, emoting person. Kate follows the Queens lead in understanding that is not the role. If you give the public and press an emotive figure, they will tear you to shreds. The queen has that advice about never holding hands in public because the first time you show up not holding hands, it will be front page news (or something lke that). She survived for so many decades by understanding that it’s better to he perceived as too aloof than to have the press think your emotional and and personal life are up for discussion. I don’t know that I would want to hang out with Kate but I think she totally understands the role of the modern British monarch. Both diana and Megan seriously misjudged the role.

Did they "misjudge" the roles, or were they mercilessly attacked by the press and undermined by the Firm--including in Diana's case, her own husband?

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Anonymous wrote:People hold diana or Megan up as more genuine but I think they were also very performative—-I just think they interpreted the role differently. They thought what the monarchy really needed was a warm, relatable, emoting person. Kate follows the Queens lead in understanding that is not the role. If you give the public and press an emotive figure, they will tear you to shreds. The queen has that advice about never holding hands in public because the first time you show up not holding hands, it will be front page news (or something lke that). She survived for so many decades by understanding that it’s better to he perceived as too aloof than to have the press think your emotional and and personal life are up for discussion. I don’t know that I would want to hang out with Kate but I think she totally understands the role of the modern British monarch. Both diana and Megan seriously misjudged the role.

I think this remains to be seen. The monarchy is less popular than ever and William and Kate are not particularly beloved. The Queen's approach worked for her very well, in her time, I am not sure that will hold true going forward. They are decidedly less modern than most Royals as well as much more expensive and I think (and the polls show) that they're rolling the dice on this playbook working for the foreseeable future. I think Diana was kind of before her time and did misjudge here role while the queen was alive. I think Megan misjudged her role in that she was never going to be the future queen. But if Kate performed or whatever you want to call it, came across as genuine? I actually think that would play well with the public, especially the younger generations.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to feel more positively towards KM but as time went on my opinion has fallen.

She works very hard at projecting decorum which is a strength. However her story of dating and falling in love with William feels very fake. When they were in their 20’s he basically disrespected her and treated her like shit. She stayed and married him anyways. There was a brief lag where he seemed to improve then he was back to cheating and treating her like shit. She stays because she cares about her social standing above all else. That’s not aspirational.

She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

She makes public missteps all the time. I can’t get the image of her laughing at the gospel choir at Meghan and Harry’s wedding out of my head. She’s too old to be so stupid. Did she really think she wouldn’t be photographed at a royal wedding?

It’s also sad that one of the most positive things that can be said about her is that she’ll put up with anything William does to cling to her title. In that sense she adds stability to the monarchy but is otherwise a terrible role model. She’s ineffective at her job and can’t promote her chosen patronage.

I guess the only fully positive thing that can be said about her is that she loves her children.

I could have written this. Agree with everything you said here.

[Anonymous]

It's a given that her role is "perceived perfection" any time she is seen or mentioned in the press. That cannot be fun or easy, even if you get to be called a princess. She is very professional as a royal, and makes it look enviable even with the stress. Not as busy as Princess Anne, but no one is.

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She’s also been in this public persona role for over a decade and still can’t figure out how to give a speech. That’s incompetent.

I think she's not supposed to outshine her spouse.
Her spouse doesn't give speeches.
Her spouse can't outshine his father, the King.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She understands the assignment.

This

[Anonymous]

She does not seem like a mean girl in the least. She seems quite introverted and shy and not terribly intelligent - can barely say two words at serious engagements.

I doubt she is a scintillating conversationalist but she probably has a nice personality. Her looks and athleticism hooked him and her stable family, aptitude and willingness to handle royal duties, and strategic relationship advice from her mother kept him on the line.