For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.

wfh is great for the people doing it. It is a nightmare for co-workers and for the entity itself.

This histrionic hyperbole has is unsupported by facts.

The short answer is some people are unproductive because they worry about what other people are doing more than worrying about themselves. It’s the same mindset conservatives have worrying that the blacks might get welfare. People who think this way generally are weak minded, reactionary, overly emotional and incapable of thinking strategically.

You are showing how you really are by bringing "blacks" into this

I guess you don’t understand that I am using their vocabulary

Who is "their"? If you are this far removed from people in question that you call something relates to them "theirs" then you should not fix your mouth to speak for them and especially throw "them" under the bus to make a point that is only self-serving (and yes, vehement wfh arguments are self serving;doesn't mean they are bad but they are self serving)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate zooming from my office, or from home, if it’s most of the work day. I much prefer working in person with humans. At least for me, the work gets done quicker and better, and l feel better and have better morale. It doesn’t have to be every day, but l do much better mentally with in person work as long as some of my colleagues are also there, so the days in need to be synchronized.

But when did it become your colleagues’ responsibility to improve your mental health? This is by far my least favorite argument for RTO. I should not have to commute in to the office multiple times a week to satisfy your personal need to be in person.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.

wfh is great for the people doing it. It is a nightmare for co-workers and for the entity itself.

This histrionic hyperbole has is unsupported by facts.

The short answer is some people are unproductive because they worry about what other people are doing more than worrying about themselves. It’s the same mindset conservatives have worrying that the blacks might get welfare. People who think this way generally are weak minded, reactionary, overly emotional and incapable of thinking strategically.

You are showing how you really are by bringing "blacks" into this

I guess you don’t understand that I am using their vocabulary

Who is "their"? If you are this far removed from people in question that you call something relates to them "theirs" then you should not fix your mouth to speak for them and especially throw "them" under the bus to make a point that is only self-serving (and yes, vehement wfh arguments are self serving;doesn't mean they are bad but they are self serving)

Aren't we all self-serving? Are you going to tell me that you are not?

[Anonymous]

OP, if you are asking about the posters who like to post about people who WFH being lazy and telling them to get their butts back into the office, etc.,....that isn't me.

But if you are asking about posters who understand why organizations don't want to go fully remote with no onsite presence, and who understand why one person's individual productivity is not the only thing that matters....that is me.

I don't come out against anybody working from home, but I do defend organizations taking a hybrid posture. It best balances providing flexibility to employees, productivity IN THE AGGREGATE, environmental concerns, culture/development/innovation/resilience/continuity issues, impacts on local economies and the global financial system, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate zooming from my office, or from home, if it’s most of the work day. I much prefer working in person with humans. At least for me, the work gets done quicker and better, and l feel better and have better morale. It doesn’t have to be every day, but l do much better mentally with in person work as long as some of my colleagues are also there, so the days in need to be synchronized.

But when did it become your colleagues’ responsibility to improve your mental health? This is by far my least favorite argument for RTO. I should not have to commute in to the office multiple times a week to satisfy your personal need to be in person.

It isn't a colleague's responsibility, but it is the employer's responsibility. It is necessary for retention, at a minimum. For that reason, organizations create policies that try to balance as best as possible and create a work environment that meets as many needs as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate zooming from my office, or from home, if it’s most of the work day. I much prefer working in person with humans. At least for me, the work gets done quicker and better, and l feel better and have better morale. It doesn’t have to be every day, but l do much better mentally with in person work as long as some of my colleagues are also there, so the days in need to be synchronized.

But when did it become your colleagues’ responsibility to improve your mental health? This is by far my least favorite argument for RTO. I should not have to commute in to the office multiple times a week to satisfy your personal need to be in person.

It isn't a colleague's responsibility, but it is the employer's responsibility. It is necessary for retention, at a minimum. For that reason, organizations create policies that try to balance as best as possible and create a work environment that meets as many needs as possible.

Okay so my org still believes allowing folks to WFH is the best for the organization. Why would you have a problem with that? It really is none of your f'king business.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.

wfh is great for the people doing it. It is a nightmare for co-workers and for the entity itself.

This histrionic hyperbole has is unsupported by facts.

The short answer is some people are unproductive because they worry about what other people are doing more than worrying about themselves. It’s the same mindset conservatives have worrying that the blacks might get welfare. People who think this way generally are weak minded, reactionary, overly emotional and incapable of thinking strategically.

You are showing how you really are by bringing "blacks" into this

I guess you don’t understand that I am using their vocabulary

Who is "their"? If you are this far removed from people in question that you call something relates to them "theirs" then you should not fix your mouth to speak for them and especially throw "them" under the bus to make a point that is only self-serving (and yes, vehement wfh arguments are self serving;doesn't mean they are bad but they are self serving)

Aren't we all self-serving? Are you going to tell me that you are not?

Yes but just admit it or not say anything at all and appreciate what you get through self service; but no need to create these elaborate excuses and artful posts and newspaper articles about why wfh is great for companies, all Americans, and productivity--it all ends up being a bunch of excuses--"there are lions in the streets!". Just say I want to work from home because it is something that I like.

[Anonymous]

Efficiency and collaboration in the org.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.

wfh is great for the people doing it. It is a nightmare for co-workers and for the entity itself.

This histrionic hyperbole has is unsupported by facts.

The short answer is some people are unproductive because they worry about what other people are doing more than worrying about themselves. It’s the same mindset conservatives have worrying that the blacks might get welfare. People who think this way generally are weak minded, reactionary, overly emotional and incapable of thinking strategically.

You are showing how you really are by bringing "blacks" into this

I guess you don’t understand that I am using their vocabulary

Who is "their"? If you are this far removed from people in question that you call something relates to them "theirs" then you should not fix your mouth to speak for them and especially throw "them" under the bus to make a point that is only self-serving (and yes, vehement wfh arguments are self serving;doesn't mean they are bad but they are self serving)

Aren't we all self-serving? Are you going to tell me that you are not?

Yes but just admit it or not say anything at all and appreciate what you get through self service; but no need to create these elaborate excuses and artful posts and newspaper articles about why wfh is great for companies, all Americans, and productivity--it all ends up being a bunch of excuses--"there are lions in the streets!". Just say I want to work from home because it is something that I like.

That BS goes both ways. I think back to office supports are far worse than WFH folks.

[Anonymous]

I get it, some people want to quiet quit with their lazy girl jobs from home and don’t ever want to see the inside of an office. Others have ambition, want to have real relationships with colleagues and are willing to make some effort to show up in person. We’ll see which group has progressed farther in their careers over the next few years, I know who I’m betting on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get it, some people want to quiet quit with their lazy girl jobs from home and don’t ever want to see the inside of an office. Others have ambition, want to have real relationships with colleagues and are willing to make some effort to show up in person. We’ll see which group has progressed farther in their careers over the next few years, I know who I’m betting on.

whatever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get it, some people want to quiet quit with their lazy girl jobs from home and don’t ever want to see the inside of an office. Others have ambition, want to have real relationships with colleagues and are willing to make some effort to show up in person. We’ll see which group has progressed farther in their careers over the next few years, I know who I’m betting on.

And that's fine. Some of us just want to do our work and make a decent salary. Companies should be flexible and allow remote, hybrid, and fully in office options. Those who are ambitious can put in tons of face time if they want. I wouldn’t expect huge promotions working from home. It wasn't important to me when I worked in the office either. I did my work and went home on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get it, some people want to quiet quit with their lazy girl jobs from home and don’t ever want to see the inside of an office. Others have ambition, want to have real relationships with colleagues and are willing to make some effort to show up in person. We’ll see which group has progressed farther in their careers over the next few years, I know who I’m betting on.

Okay, I confess. I do NOT want to have real relationships with coworkers. I don't. Sorry if that makes me a bad person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get it, some people want to quiet quit with their lazy girl jobs from home and don’t ever want to see the inside of an office. Others have ambition, want to have real relationships with colleagues and are willing to make some effort to show up in person. We’ll see which group has progressed farther in their careers over the next few years, I know who I’m betting on.

#needy

[Anonymous]

Because we know you aren’t working all of the time and are taking advantage.