For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We sadly had someone die at work this week due to WFH.

We have defibrillators at work but office empty and guy had heart attack and no one there to call 911 or use machine.

But hey you got wear PJs while your co-worker died alone

That is a stupid argument. What if everyone was at lunch or what if everyone was in the office and he wasn't feeling so we went and sat on toilet and had a heart attack. Or he took the day off because he wasn't feeling well and had a heart attack at home.

He had a heart attack that's is what happened. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous]

That's why they call it 'going to work'. You go there, they pay you to do stuff. People had quite a run of staying home. Now they don't want it to end. I actually get that, but hey, Suck it up! At least you got the benefits for a while. Some people never did.

[Anonymous]

What bothers me are people like Michael Bloomberg who act like they care about climate change but are leading the charge to get people back to the office. WFH is a greater contribution toward lessening carbon emissions than any government mandate, but he doesn’t care because it affects his bottom line.

The societal benefits of WFH can’t be underestimated either. A lot of kids get to see a lot more of their parents when they WFH.

[Anonymous]

My one staff had balls (tight job market) told me outright he wants WFH as he is a part time mortgage broker, part time does taxes and likes to go his sons basketball practice twice a week. Can’t take calls at work in cell phone. He also video games, likes to meet friends for happy hour and go to sports events.

Funny no mention of wife or daughter.

At least he was honest. I said ok, as long as work is done.

But I will be looking his replacement and come April 2024 when he gets zero raise and bonus or he is fired sooner he might reconsider.

I am short staffed so some work better no work for now.

But career wise I think I he is cool with just milking it six months to a year. He is a lazy bone with a working wife. Most likely when canned milk six months unemployment and be someone else’s problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My one staff had balls (tight job market) told me outright he wants WFH as he is a part time mortgage broker, part time does taxes and likes to go his sons basketball practice twice a week. Can’t take calls at work in cell phone. He also video games, likes to meet friends for happy hour and go to sports events.

Funny no mention of wife or daughter.

At least he was honest. I said ok, as long as work is done.

But I will be looking his replacement and come April 2024 when he gets zero raise and bonus or he is fired sooner he might reconsider.

I am short staffed so some work better no work for now.

But career wise I think I he is cool with just milking it six months to a year. He is a lazy bone with a working wife. Most likely when canned milk six months unemployment and be someone else’s problem.

It’s interesting that in every thread about employees, there’s this guy who writes a post about his superior managerial nous who tells some story about a slacker employee he’s about to fire — and yet this amazing manager seems utterly incapable of writing grammatical sentences or using punctuation correctly. Thank you for being so obvious with your make-believe, dude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My one staff had balls (tight job market) told me outright he wants WFH as he is a part time mortgage broker, part time does taxes and likes to go his sons basketball practice twice a week. Can’t take calls at work in cell phone. He also video games, likes to meet friends for happy hour and go to sports events.

Funny no mention of wife or daughter.

At least he was honest. I said ok, as long as work is done.

But I will be looking his replacement and come April 2024 when he gets zero raise and bonus or he is fired sooner he might reconsider.

I am short staffed so some work better no work for now.

But career wise I think I he is cool with just milking it six months to a year. He is a lazy bone with a working wife. Most likely when canned milk six months unemployment and be someone else’s problem.

It’s interesting that in every thread about employees, there’s this guy who writes a post about his superior managerial nous who tells some story about a slacker employee he’s about to fire — and yet this amazing manager seems utterly incapable of writing grammatical sentences or using punctuation correctly. Thank you for being so obvious with your make-believe, dude.

LOL. Very true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am hiring for a very flexible hybrid job. 2-3 days a week at home, casual dress, flex hours, meaning at work or at home pretty much start at 6am if you want, at 12 noon if you want. Work 4 hours one day and catch up later.

But do to scammers first 90 days are in office 5 days a week. Just had women drop out today of interview process as she lied and actually lives in North Carolina using Moms DC address.

Remote and WFH attracts scammers

At my company, we like WFH as our pool of candidates is nationwide versus local. We have found that we are able to hire qualified people who work hard, and do a good job all over the country. If they don't perform, we that is managed via performance process

The people who live local, are on a hybrid work schedule as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What bothers me are people like Michael Bloomberg who act like they care about climate change but are leading the charge to get people back to the office. WFH is a greater contribution toward lessening carbon emissions than any government mandate, but he doesn’t care because it affects his bottom line.

The societal benefits of WFH can’t be underestimated either. A lot of kids get to see a lot more of their parents when they WFH.

I would love to see evidence that WFH is significantly better for climate change. During the pandemic so many WFH people moved deeper into the suburbs and bought bigger houses so they could have a home office. Everyone using electricity and AC at home during the day is not actually more efficient than going into an office, and traffic has been horrible post pandemic because people live farther out now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.

It's not even this board, wfh crazies are everywhere!

I am probably not the person OP wants to hear from, because I'm not necessarily anti-wfh. I am fortunate to have a hybrid position here in DC, so I go in 2-3 days a week depending on my schedule and wfh the remaining days. I appreciate the flexibility - i.e. going through some personal issues right now, so I can have a telehealth therapy session at 8:00 and then wfh so I'm not late. That is nice and I appreciate it. While I like the flexibility, I also think there are benefits to being in the office and working in a collaborative environment.

However there is a contingency of pro-wfh people who think anyone who even slightly prefers in-office is a monster. Did you guys see that woman a few months ago who claimed return to office initiatives are the brain child of boomer men who hate their wives and just want to see their work crush again? Like wtf? I'm a millennial woman and I think she was absolutely batshit to even think that let alone verbalize it. Touch some grass. Your boss isn't a bad person for wanting you in the office a few days a week.

While I think that person is over the top, at my work, it is 100 percent the men who have stay at home wives who want to be in the office and have others there. I believe they like the separation from home and they have someone already to deal with the day to day home stuff that weighs the rest of us down. These guys also love happy hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My one staff had balls (tight job market) told me outright he wants WFH as he is a part time mortgage broker, part time does taxes and likes to go his sons basketball practice twice a week. Can’t take calls at work in cell phone. He also video games, likes to meet friends for happy hour and go to sports events.

Funny no mention of wife or daughter.

At least he was honest. I said ok, as long as work is done.

But I will be looking his replacement and come April 2024 when he gets zero raise and bonus or he is fired sooner he might reconsider.

I am short staffed so some work better no work for now.

But career wise I think I he is cool with just milking it six months to a year. He is a lazy bone with a working wife. Most likely when canned milk six months unemployment and be someone else’s problem.

Isn't it time for you to retire to Florida and get that boat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What bothers me are people like Michael Bloomberg who act like they care about climate change but are leading the charge to get people back to the office. WFH is a greater contribution toward lessening carbon emissions than any government mandate, but he doesn’t care because it affects his bottom line.

The societal benefits of WFH can’t be underestimated either. A lot of kids get to see a lot more of their parents when they WFH.

I would love to see evidence that WFH is significantly better for climate change. During the pandemic so many WFH people moved deeper into the suburbs and bought bigger houses so they could have a home office. Everyone using electricity and AC at home during the day is not actually more efficient than going into an office, and traffic has been horrible post pandemic because people live farther out now.

People move out further as it's more affordable/size. We have a small house and it's very tempting to move out. You cannot tell me it's not better for my spouse to work from home when he has a 60-90 minute drive each way with gas. If they moved away from offices and shut those down, yes, it would be more environmental. There are multiple studies if you google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.

It's not even this board, wfh crazies are everywhere!

I am probably not the person OP wants to hear from, because I'm not necessarily anti-wfh. I am fortunate to have a hybrid position here in DC, so I go in 2-3 days a week depending on my schedule and wfh the remaining days. I appreciate the flexibility - i.e. going through some personal issues right now, so I can have a telehealth therapy session at 8:00 and then wfh so I'm not late. That is nice and I appreciate it. While I like the flexibility, I also think there are benefits to being in the office and working in a collaborative environment.

However there is a contingency of pro-wfh people who think anyone who even slightly prefers in-office is a monster. Did you guys see that woman a few months ago who claimed return to office initiatives are the brain child of boomer men who hate their wives and just want to see their work crush again? Like wtf? I'm a millennial woman and I think she was absolutely batshit to even think that let alone verbalize it. Touch some grass. Your boss isn't a bad person for wanting you in the office a few days a week.

While I think that person is over the top, at my work, it is 100 percent the men who have stay at home wives who want to be in the office and have others there. I believe they like the separation from home and they have someone already to deal with the day to day home stuff that weighs the rest of us down. These guys also love happy hours.

I am a SAH. My husband has no interest in going into the office except when specific tasks need to be done. I love having him home as I like spending time with him. He has zero interest in happy hours or social events nor travel. You believe wrong. He also likes being home as he can put more hours into work and still have time to spend with the kids when he has no commute as that's an extra two hours a day for work or family or both.

[Anonymous]

I'll say. Men who WFH are not a turn on. Period.
It has ruined our sex life because I am not into a dude laying around all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll say. Men who WFH are not a turn on. Period.
It has ruined our sex life because I am not into a dude laying around all day.

If he's laying around all day then he's not working from home

You people are irrational and obsessive about this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.

It's not even this board, wfh crazies are everywhere!

I am probably not the person OP wants to hear from, because I'm not necessarily anti-wfh. I am fortunate to have a hybrid position here in DC, so I go in 2-3 days a week depending on my schedule and wfh the remaining days. I appreciate the flexibility - i.e. going through some personal issues right now, so I can have a telehealth therapy session at 8:00 and then wfh so I'm not late. That is nice and I appreciate it. While I like the flexibility, I also think there are benefits to being in the office and working in a collaborative environment.

However there is a contingency of pro-wfh people who think anyone who even slightly prefers in-office is a monster. Did you guys see that woman a few months ago who claimed return to office initiatives are the brain child of boomer men who hate their wives and just want to see their work crush again? Like wtf? I'm a millennial woman and I think she was absolutely batshit to even think that let alone verbalize it. Touch some grass. Your boss isn't a bad person for wanting you in the office a few days a week.

While I think that person is over the top, at my work, it is 100 percent the men who have stay at home wives who want to be in the office and have others there. I believe they like the separation from home and they have someone already to deal with the day to day home stuff that weighs the rest of us down. These guys also love happy hours.

I am a SAH. My husband has no interest in going into the office except when specific tasks need to be done. I love having him home as I like spending time with him. He has zero interest in happy hours or social events nor travel. You believe wrong. He also likes being home as he can put more hours into work and still have time to spend with the kids when he has no commute as that's an extra two hours a day for work or family or both.

Me Me Me Me. Exactly how does any of that work? I am in the office today. Guess what leaving early and taking a long lunch. Why people like your husband home goofing off or out jogging, at gym or whatever. Impacts my ability to do work in office.

When I was full time remote work did my job and that’s it. I was a big fat lazy bone like your husband, in person I get involved so much more. People walk into my office. I am thinking about being CEO it is only promotionI can get. Seems remote people don’t want it.