Ron DeSantis ends permanent alimony

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.


LOL. She has been retired for decades on the back of someone else, now that someone else needs to extend their time to retirement because getting a low wage job is beneath her? Half of the marital assets, 5-10 years of alimony and then fly baby fly!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.



Omg boo hoo.

Now imagine all of those single women who got divorced from men who aren't rich. They had to get jobs.

There are no guarantees in life. Just because you were a sahm married to a loaded dude doesn't mean you should be guaranteed a paycheck every month just because you exist. Get a job, deadbeat. You already got more than your fair share of all assets. NO ONE should be basically required to be enslaved as an indentured servant because they're required to pay their ex spouse a salary for Infinity for doing nothing. Preposterous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.


LOL. She has been retired for decades on the back of someone else, now that someone else needs to extend their time to retirement because getting a low wage job is beneath her? Half of the marital assets, 5-10 years of alimony and then fly baby fly!


So no adult should ever be a SAHP then, correct? Those are your words, that is a worthless job and every adult should
Work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.



Omg boo hoo.

Now imagine all of those single women who got divorced from men who aren't rich. They had to get jobs.

There are no guarantees in life. Just because you were a sahm married to a loaded dude doesn't mean you should be guaranteed a paycheck every month just because you exist. Get a job, deadbeat. You already got more than your fair share of all assets. NO ONE should be basically required to be enslaved as an indentured servant because they're required to pay their ex spouse a salary for Infinity for doing nothing. Preposterous.


Who said the guy was loaded? You are presuming having penis means making a lot of money. Laughable. Your a pig. Birth your own babies since that’s your God given… oh wait you can’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Leopards are their faces

"“He (DeSantis) has just impoverished all the older women of Florida, and I know at least 3,000 women across the state of Florida are switching to Democrat and we will campaign against him, all the way, forever,” Camille Fiveash, a Milton Republican who receives permanent alimony, said in a phone interview Friday."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/01/desantis-signs-florida-alimony-overhaul-after-years-of-vetoes/70375186007/


I’m rolling my eyes so hard.

Too bad. This is what happens when you vote against your own interest. Dummies.


Yup...some women are as dumb AF.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.


LOL. She has been retired for decades on the back of someone else, now that someone else needs to extend their time to retirement because getting a low wage job is beneath her? Half of the marital assets, 5-10 years of alimony and then fly baby fly!


So no adult should ever be a SAHP then, correct? Those are your words, that is a worthless job and every adult should
Work.


Do whatever you want, but own your choices. If you decide to become dependent like a child, surrendering all your financial independence to your spouse, its a gamble. And sometimes those choices have negative consequences.
No one should be held hostage unable to retire at a sensible age because an ex-spouse thinks they are entitled to a lifetime of their earnings.
Anonymous
I've been married for 35 years. I gave up my career to raise our children, who are now grown. I've been looking for a job, but can't find one. No one wants to hire an older woman who has no job and has not worked for 35 years. I got some training at my local CC, but it made no difference. I'm unemployable. I doubt I'd get hired at Starbucks (no barista experience!). If my husband and I divorced, I would starve if I didn't receive permanent alimony. For younger women who didn't give up their careers, it's a completely different situation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.


LOL. She has been retired for decades on the back of someone else, now that someone else needs to extend their time to retirement because getting a low wage job is beneath her? Half of the marital assets, 5-10 years of alimony and then fly baby fly!


So no adult should ever be a SAHP then, correct? Those are your words, that is a worthless job and every adult should
Work.


Do whatever you want, but own your choices. If you decide to become dependent like a child, surrendering all your financial independence to your spouse, its a gamble. And sometimes those choices have negative consequences.
No one should be held hostage unable to retire at a sensible age because an ex-spouse thinks they are entitled to a lifetime of their earnings.


It's only 3,000 women in the state of Florida on permanent alimony. Those women most likely were not born and raised in Florida, but in New York or some other Northern state. I couldn't care less if a woman receives permanent alimony, as long as she isn't collecting money from tax payers. Why do you care about 3,000 men who are paying their ex-wives alimony?

Anyway, the most likely scenario as to why most of these men continue working into retirement, is that they are paying for their ADULT children. That's not going to end just because the permanent alimony ends.

These men will never retire because of the power and validation they receive in the workplace. And most of them are still financially supporting their adult children, like children over the age of 18.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been married for 35 years. I gave up my career to raise our children, who are now grown. I've been looking for a job, but can't find one. No one wants to hire an older woman who has no job and has not worked for 35 years. I got some training at my local CC, but it made no difference. I'm unemployable. I doubt I'd get hired at Starbucks (no barista experience!). If my husband and I divorced, I would starve if I didn't receive permanent alimony. For younger women who didn't give up their careers, it's a completely different situation.


You aren't unemployable. But you would most likely have to accept a very low wage job. You could work at a deli in a grocery store. You could work in a cafeteria. C'mon seriously. Do you not even see older women working in these low paying jobs? Would you be able to afford the lifestyle you have now? No, you would not at all.
Anonymous
Good, there no reason for it and it’s a step in the right direction. Next default 50/50 should be the standard and people negotiate from there and even the playing field. For too long men have taken all the risk and none of the rewards of marriage and I have seen men lose everything. It’s time to level the playing field and be on equal footing when it comes to divorce and family courts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good, there no reason for it and it’s a step in the right direction. Next default 50/50 should be the standard and people negotiate from there and even the playing field. For too long men have taken all the risk and none of the rewards of marriage and I have seen men lose everything. It’s time to level the playing field and be on equal footing when it comes to divorce and family courts.


Statistics don't align with your views. Men's standard of living increases after divorce, while for women it's the opposite. You might see a man move into an apartment temporarily. Most women can't afford the family home.

I'm a woman who chose not have children at all. I think you will see more and more women who just won't marry and have any children, when the odds are not in their favor. Women aren't going to willingly marry someone and have his children and take care of his home without some reassurance they will be taken care of if he decides to high tail it out of there.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been married for 35 years. I gave up my career to raise our children, who are now grown. I've been looking for a job, but can't find one. No one wants to hire an older woman who has no job and has not worked for 35 years. I got some training at my local CC, but it made no difference. I'm unemployable. I doubt I'd get hired at Starbucks (no barista experience!). If my husband and I divorced, I would starve if I didn't receive permanent alimony. For younger women who didn't give up their careers, it's a completely different situation.


You aren't unemployable. But you would most likely have to accept a very low wage job. You could work at a deli in a grocery store. You could work in a cafeteria. C'mon seriously. Do you not even see older women working in these low paying jobs? Would you be able to afford the lifestyle you have now? No, you would not at all.


I would guess she can't find a job because of her attitude that she shouldn't work low skill jobs comes through. I don't believe for a second that you can't find employment as a receptionist or customer service or something. If that's beneath you, go run the register in a museum cafeteria - those are frequently manned by older people.

If assets, including retirement, is split 50/50, there's no reason for alimony past retirement age.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been married for 35 years. I gave up my career to raise our children, who are now grown. I've been looking for a job, but can't find one. No one wants to hire an older woman who has no job and has not worked for 35 years. I got some training at my local CC, but it made no difference. I'm unemployable. I doubt I'd get hired at Starbucks (no barista experience!). If my husband and I divorced, I would starve if I didn't receive permanent alimony. For younger women who didn't give up their careers, it's a completely different situation.


Even under this law, you'd get 26 years of alimony plus half of your husbands assets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been married for 35 years. I gave up my career to raise our children, who are now grown. I've been looking for a job, but can't find one. No one wants to hire an older woman who has no job and has not worked for 35 years. I got some training at my local CC, but it made no difference. I'm unemployable. I doubt I'd get hired at Starbucks (no barista experience!). If my husband and I divorced, I would starve if I didn't receive permanent alimony. For younger women who didn't give up their careers, it's a completely different situation.


Even under this law, you'd get 26 years of alimony plus half of your husbands assets.

You get half the marital assets, not half of his assets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are in your bubble and are thinking of Nannies and high earners and bs like that but that is not who we are talking about here.

Imagine an uneducated nail technician cheating on her hardworking civil servant husband for years but stretches out the marriage to make it to the ten year mark so she can get half of his pension (woohoo I won the lottery!) for eternity. She also gets “full custody” of the kids (=child support $) but decides to take that money and run off to West Virginia with her new boyfriend, lots of vacations to Cancun and a giant new pickup truck while the courts require her to keep paying even as he raises the kids himself, pays for braces etc . Alternative scenario a lady used to being supported her whole married life is now divorced at 55 but does not feel like getting an actual job so prefers remaining “dependant” in spite the fact that it means her husband can never actually retire, as he will be Paying for the rest of time.


Yes I am a feminist but a lot of times really get the shitty end of the stick and usually it is men with fewer of course.



How is a woman of 55 that spent almost all her career building years being a SAHM supposed to support herself on minimum wage since she has no skills to get any other kind of job? Coincidently society doesn’t believe we should raise minimum wage since only teenagers should be working those kinds of jobs so now what? She’s 10ish years from retirement, retirement benefits won’t pay crap no health care and supposed to afford living in any capacity on 7.25/hr.


LOL. She has been retired for decades on the back of someone else, now that someone else needs to extend their time to retirement because getting a low wage job is beneath her? Half of the marital assets, 5-10 years of alimony and then fly baby fly!


So no adult should ever be a SAHP then, correct? Those are your words, that is a worthless job and every adult should
Work.

The misogynists can never stop telling on themselves. If a woman works outside the home, she’s abandoning the children and a feminazi and not a woman. If a woman chooses to stay home with the kids, she’s “on someone else’s back,” a useless sponger.

Turns out that fascists don’t have any deeply held opinions regarding the sanctity of home or anything, they just really, really hate women.
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