Are rich & famous people using surrogates…

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with her using a surrogate, but chrissy tiegen’s instagram is cracking me up right now. She has a newborn and a five-month-old, and usually new moms would be pretty busy. Chrissy though- she’s learning how to do cross stitch and investigating who of her hired help may have stitched a few squares on the project. In one video she pans over to her mother who is feeding her newborn. I cannot imagine living her lifestyle but she owns it!

Wow I didn’t realize she has two babies! Going to Hilaria Baldwin path?

Good for her!

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I don't see a problem with it. Surrogates are paid well for the work and that payment positively impacts her and her family. I was on fertility boards for years - didn't need a surrogate, but followed the stories of many who did and followed stories of surrogate mothers as well. It can be a win/win in a lot of cases. In the cases you're talking about, no one is forced to do the work. (I did see a Mariana Von Zeller doc about forced surrogacy in third world countries, but that's another story.)

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Anonymous wrote:For celebrity women, your career is usually over by 35 or 40 (used to be 30). So having kids before 30 or 40 can and probably will impact a woman’s career. Not because of the body issues but because the time to have a kid and most want to stay with the kid. Bringing them on set is fairly new and only the A-listers can demand they be on set.

Secondly, it’s very difficult to get pregnant after the age of 30. An article in the late 80’s/early 90’s came out stating you were more likely to get hit by lightning than to get pregnant.

Given the two factors above, I don’t blame celebs from using surrogates.

But it probably is more prevalent among the rice who are NOT famous.

Stop perpetuating the falsehood that a career is over if you have kids. Reese Witherspoon, Beyoncé, Rihanna, and countless others did just fine after kids. Even Britney Spears had kids during the height of her fame. You bounce back much quicker when you’re on your 20s.

+1. And it's really uninformed to proclaim that "it's very difficult to get pregnant after the age of 30." More likely to get hit by lightning than to get pregnant? Please.

https://www.parents.com/getting-pregnant/trying-to-conceive/up-your-chances-of-getting-pregnant-at-every-age/

I had my kids in my 30s and 40s, all of them in the first month of trying. Majority of my friends started their families in their 30s.

Women are now having children at older ages than ever before. https://www.deseret.com/2023/1/31/23579520/first-time-mothers-are-older#:~:text=The%20median%20age%20for%20last,they%20last%20had%20a%20child. This article states that the MEDIAN age for last birth is 31.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does this matter to you now?
How on earth would commercial surrogacy ever be ethical enough to be just out of necessity?

Because it's modern slavery? It's disgusting. It's one step away from buying poor people's organs.

Paying someone to perform a service is not slavery.

NP but do you think prostitution should be legal? They are similar in terms of a woman renting out her body and taking on a dangerous health risk.

It’s legal in the Netherlands.

Surrogacy isn’t. Only the US and a bunch of developing nations allow it, and even some of them are starting to rethink. It’s a seriously exploitative industry.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like these kind of judgmental thoughts are what lead many actresses and celebrities to fake pregnancies while using a surrogate. Or if they are their own gestational carrier to pose nude on the cover of some magazine, while pregnant to prove that they are in fact pregnant.

More recently over the past few years this practice has slowed down because it’s unnecessary; or for actresses who are 50+ who just don’t care what people like us to think anymore. And good for them.

It’s wild to me that DC urban moms can’t just be comfortable letting women have choices over their own bodies, including whether or not to be a surrogate.

By the way, so many celebrities adopt. Rest assured, surrogates are not preventing adoptions. It’s a tiny portion of births.

Lots of poor people do things they don't want to do for money. Calling surrogacy a "choice" is over simplifiying it.

Okay, Karen.

This insult literally makes no sense in this situation.

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How is paid surrogacy any different than buying kidneys or blood?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see a problem with it. Surrogates are paid well for the work and that payment positively impacts her and her family. I was on fertility boards for years - didn't need a surrogate, but followed the stories of many who did and followed stories of surrogate mothers as well. It can be a win/win in a lot of cases. In the cases you're talking about, no one is forced to do the work. (I did see a Mariana Von Zeller doc about forced surrogacy in third world countries, but that's another story.)

Nobody’s forced? You mean like the viral story where a surrogate came down with cancer and the rich gay couple forced her to abort the fetuses because they didn’t want the drama of premature babies?????

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see a problem with it. Surrogates are paid well for the work and that payment positively impacts her and her family. I was on fertility boards for years - didn't need a surrogate, but followed the stories of many who did and followed stories of surrogate mothers as well. It can be a win/win in a lot of cases. In the cases you're talking about, no one is forced to do the work. (I did see a Mariana Von Zeller doc about forced surrogacy in third world countries, but that's another story.)

Nobody’s forced? You mean like the viral story where a surrogate came down with cancer and the rich gay couple forced her to abort the fetuses because they didn’t want the drama of premature babies?????

There was a case of a surrogate in Asia where the intended parents refused to accept the baby after it was born with some health issues.

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Anonymous wrote:How is paid surrogacy any different than buying kidneys or blood?

It isn’t. We don’t allow people to sell organs or engage in prostitution but we allow them to rent out their wombs? It really doesn’t make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:How is paid surrogacy any different than buying kidneys or blood?

It isn’t. We don’t allow people to sell organs or engage in prostitution but we allow them to rent out their wombs? It really doesn’t make sense.

+1, I think the main reason surrogacy is viewed more favorably in the US as opposed to other countries is the way the evangelical movement in the US has convo fed Americans that there is nothing more important than procreating. Also explains hypocrisy in the US regarding abortion and IVF.

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Convinced, no con fed

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Interesting that no one has addressed surrogacy’s being unfair to the child.

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I can very much sympathize with people who hire a surrogate because they will never otherwise be able to have a child. But celebrities who have multiple children hiring a surrogate disgust me — especially the ones like Hilaria or Chrissy who were literally already pregnant.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with her using a surrogate, but chrissy tiegen’s instagram is cracking me up right now. She has a newborn and a five-month-old, and usually new moms would be pretty busy. Chrissy though- she’s learning how to do cross stitch and investigating who of her hired help may have stitched a few squares on the project. In one video she pans over to her mother who is feeding her newborn. I cannot imagine living her lifestyle but she owns it!

The less time Chrissy spends with her kids the better for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Chrissy Tiegen did it because she was worried she would have another late term loss. Priyanka Chopra did it because she was worried she was too old to carry to term.

Did Chrissy use a surrogate for both the babies she got in the last 6 months?