APS Engage Update Pre-CIP Report

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What APS should do is review the middle and high school boundaries together to ensure logical school pyramids. Not wait to do the high school boundaries later as they propose.

That is way too logical for APS. They don’t think more than 5 min ahead.

If they are doing the boundaries without public feedback then a holistic approach makes the most sense since middle and hs boundaries together would eliminate future problems. (APS staff wouldn’t be overworked with twice the number of public community meetings that would have been required in the pre covid days.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

[Anonymous]

Build new facilities in South Arlington, where the county needs them, already!

Stop messing around with boundaries and whatnot to try to alleviate crowding in the south by moving kids north. Please.

And I live in North Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

Except for the neighborhoods that were rezoned to Ashlawn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamm isn’t overcapacity now or in any of the projections, right? Why are the units being moved?

No, and their 5 year projection shows it at 98% capacity. They want to shift everyone north to fill Williamsburg.

Interesting how they used "number of students impacted" as a metric to argue for closing Nottingham but haven't applied that same metric to middle school boundaries. It just shows how they are cherry picking data.

APS engineered low enrollment at Nottingham in the last boundary shift by over enrolling Cardinal. They made that happen intentionally. This was always the plan for Nottingham.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

Except for the neighborhoods that were rezoned to Ashlawn.

Those zones could have stayed at Cardinal, except APS was trying to empty Notting and put those kids at Cardinal. Those families were sent to Ashlawn because of APS's plan to close Nottingham, not because of the school move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just move Montessori middle school to Williamsburg? They're already being bused.

I kind of wonder this too. I actually think for Montessori it would (education philosophy wise) make sense make it K-8 but I don't know if that would be possible to fit in at the ACC site.

Montessori middle school has, like, 8 kids in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

They left 3 planning units out in the end. Initially they were not moving most of McKinley and people freaked the F out. Dominion Hills was supposed to go to Ashlawn and some PUs to Glebe. And then there were the people who could walk to McKinley and would now be bused to Cardinal when the McKinley (now ATS) building was right there!!! It's all the same things people argue about. I wanna stay with my friends and I wanna walk. Just different sets of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just move Montessori middle school to Williamsburg? They're already being bused.

I kind of wonder this too. I actually think for Montessori it would (education philosophy wise) make sense make it K-8 but I don't know if that would be possible to fit in at the ACC site.

Montessori middle school has, like, 8 kids in it.

ha ha. Alright well I had zero idea it was so small lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Build new facilities in South Arlington, where the county needs them, already!

Stop messing around with boundaries and whatnot to try to alleviate crowding in the south by moving kids north. Please.

And I live in North Arlington.

So the County should spend tens of millions of dollars to build new elementary schools and leave some half empty. Um, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You will like Williamsburg though. Great school.

I've heard nothing good about it. No thanks.

I haven’t heard anything good about Swanson lately though.

I'm pp and we're zoned for Hamm

I saw that. It was disappointing how many kids right by Taylor/hamm will now be moved to Williamsburg.

Plenty of kids who could walk to Taylor were moved over to Jamestown in that boundary shift (including my own) - you’ll survive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

Except for the neighborhoods that were rezoned to Ashlawn.

Those zones could have stayed at Cardinal, except APS was trying to empty Notting and put those kids at Cardinal. Those families were sent to Ashlawn because of APS's plan to close Nottingham, not because of the school move.

What? No Nottingham kids were impacted with Cardinal coming on line. Nottingham was not touched during that boundary adjustment. Tuckahoe kids were moved.

What happened is too many Nottingham families went private during covid and didn't come back and now Nottingham has the least robust enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Build new facilities in South Arlington, where the county needs them, already!

Stop messing around with boundaries and whatnot to try to alleviate crowding in the south by moving kids north. Please.

And I live in North Arlington.

So the County should spend tens of millions of dollars to build new elementary schools and leave some half empty. Um, no.

It’s not great, but when all the population growth is in South Arlington but the underenrolled schools are in North Arlington, the County is going to have to redistribute the kids every few years over and over to keep moving kids north if they don’t build more facilities in the south, where the kids are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Build new facilities in South Arlington, where the county needs them, already!

Stop messing around with boundaries and whatnot to try to alleviate crowding in the south by moving kids north. Please.

And I live in North Arlington.

So the County should spend tens of millions of dollars to build new elementary schools and leave some half empty. Um, no.

It’s not great, but when all the population growth is in South Arlington but the underenrolled schools are in North Arlington, the County is going to have to redistribute the kids every few years over and over to keep moving kids north if they don’t build more facilities in the south, where the kids are!

Is there even a place you could build more schools in S. Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine they are actually going to close Nottingham. Once the wealthy Nottingham parents start fussing about it (and they already are), the school board will back down for sure. You don’t mess with the rich, white elementary schools in Arlington, do you?

I guess you missed when they closed McKinley.

True, but they moved all of McKinley together to a brand new building at Cardinal. That’s different from what they are proposing here.

They left 3 planning units out in the end. Initially they were not moving most of McKinley and people freaked the F out. Dominion Hills was supposed to go to Ashlawn and some PUs to Glebe. And then there were the people who could walk to McKinley and would now be bused to Cardinal when the McKinley (now ATS) building was right there!!! It's all the same things people argue about. I wanna stay with my friends and I wanna walk. Just different sets of people.

Eeek to moving all but 3 planning units to the same school. I didn’t realize that.