No consequence for teaching CRT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

[Anonymous]

I am glad CRT is being taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

[Anonymous]

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This county was founded on the principles of colonialism, which is oppression. It's not a theory, it's a fact. Oppression fueled its growth from the beginning with slavery, sweatshops, annihilation of native groups, not just in North America but in all of the Americas. Yes, kids do need to understand colonialism and the growth of nations.

1. The United States was founded on the principle of liberty. Slavery was terrible and wrong. And, what happened? We fought a war over it and it was abolished. Lots of men gave their lives for that. That is important for students to understand. That it became better. It has taken more than two hundred years, but people are not oppressed now in the same way they were --even fifty years ago.

2. Our government enabled us to eventually eliminate sweatshops--the ones that exist now are illegal and likely fueled by illegal immigration.

3. Annihilation of native groups was not good--but, you do know that they were not peaceful before Europeans arrived? Were you aware of that? Do you teach that?

Do you really think the Americas were peaceful prior to the colonization? Really?

Will you agree that our country was founded on the principles of liberty and freedom for white men, and white men only?

That we had to fight a war over slavery as it was embedded in our culture? That we are STILL fighting the ideals that perpetrated slavery in the first place?

Will you agree to teach about the Robber Barons and why we had sweatshops? About the various immigrant groups that came here and fueled single handedly supported our economy? And how our economy is still supported by immigrants, particularly undocumented ones? That the vegetables they eat were picked by undocumented immigrants, and those chicken nuggets came from poultry farms where thousands of undocumented immigrants are paid low wages under the table in dangerous conditions, many of them children.

How about how the US fueled unrest in Central America causing the dangerous life these people are fleeing?


Read a book.

I agree with you to a point, but in the end you use earlier arguments to justify continuing illegal immigration and the exploitation of the people here and where they left. The country is a work in progress. It has made course corrections, not all of which have been fully realized. Dealing with unfettered entrance into this country and accounting for the in and out flow of people is needed. Plus intervention outside the US borders to deal with cartels and perhaps some governments. I don't know what the right approach is. Clearly a delicate balance is needed in regards to immigrants. If you are for controlling this, then you are perpetuating the exploitation of people ike in earlier US history. The path from the south into the US is the new Trail of Tears.

Do you understand the Trail of Tears? Clearly you do not.

How is this even a comparison?

You keep talking about liberty. Yet you don't understand refugees. Why?

Do you not see how people are being purged or forced into labor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

It’s people who can see only out of one eye or the other that enable the extemism. WaKe Up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am glad CRT is being taught.

But it’s not being taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

It might be helpful if you gave some thought to what they are saying.
I was a teacher of primary grades. NO child benefits from being taught that he is a victim or a bully. You can help kids learn to be kind to others without demeaning them. Behavior can be bad without teaching kids that they are bad.

Critical Race Theory is in opposition to my beliefs. I do not believe that people are inherently racist. Why do I believe that? Because when I began teaching I taught in the projects. I taught extremely poor African American kids and extremely poor white kids. There were a lot of extremely rough kids--both Black and White. But, they played together and fought together without racial animus that I could detect. I do not ever recall hearing the "n" word used there--and that was when the word was much more prevalent than today.
One of my fondest memories was a very hot day after the kids were outside. We were having storytime with the kids at their desks because it was so hot and we had no air conditioning. Some of the kids put their heads on their desks because they were tired. I looked up from the story and two of the boys--one Black with a large Afro, and the other white with stringy blond hair--had their hands on each other's head feeling their hair. It was touching and perfect.

Yes. There is racism, but we will never move on as long as we are being told how racist we are. And, a PP has been calling anyone who disagrees with his/her argument a racist. This is an anonymous forum. There is a PP has no idea of the background of the people to whom she is responding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

It might be helpful if you gave some thought to what they are saying.
I was a teacher of primary grades. NO child benefits from being taught that he is a victim or a bully. You can help kids learn to be kind to others without demeaning them. Behavior can be bad without teaching kids that they are bad.

Critical Race Theory is in opposition to my beliefs. I do not believe that people are inherently racist. Why do I believe that? Because when I began teaching I taught in the projects. I taught extremely poor African American kids and extremely poor white kids. There were a lot of extremely rough kids--both Black and White. But, they played together and fought together without racial animus that I could detect. I do not ever recall hearing the "n" word used there--and that was when the word was much more prevalent than today.
One of my fondest memories was a very hot day after the kids were outside. We were having storytime with the kids at their desks because it was so hot and we had no air conditioning. Some of the kids put their heads on their desks because they were tired. I looked up from the story and two of the boys--one Black with a large Afro, and the other white with stringy blond hair--had their hands on each other's head feeling their hair. It was touching and perfect.

Yes. There is racism, but we will never move on as long as we are being told how racist we are. And, a PP has been calling anyone who disagrees with his/her argument a racist. This is an anonymous forum. There is a PP has no idea of the background of the people to whom she is responding.

I’ve been teaching for 30 years. I’ve taught 2nd, 3rd and 4th grades. I don’t recall ever teaching or telling students what you claim is being taught. If you can point out where I have, I’d appreciate it. Did you see this in the FCPS Pacing? SOLs? I’m willing to review my instruction if you can point it out to me.

Did you experience this as a teacher of a primary grade in FCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

“The roll out was certainly troublesome” - A racist’s guide to slavery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

It might be helpful if you gave some thought to what they are saying.
I was a teacher of primary grades. NO child benefits from being taught that he is a victim or a bully. You can help kids learn to be kind to others without demeaning them. Behavior can be bad without teaching kids that they are bad.

Critical Race Theory is in opposition to my beliefs. I do not believe that people are inherently racist. Why do I believe that? Because when I began teaching I taught in the projects. I taught extremely poor African American kids and extremely poor white kids. There were a lot of extremely rough kids--both Black and White. But, they played together and fought together without racial animus that I could detect. I do not ever recall hearing the "n" word used there--and that was when the word was much more prevalent than today.
One of my fondest memories was a very hot day after the kids were outside. We were having storytime with the kids at their desks because it was so hot and we had no air conditioning. Some of the kids put their heads on their desks because they were tired. I looked up from the story and two of the boys--one Black with a large Afro, and the other white with stringy blond hair--had their hands on each other's head feeling their hair. It was touching and perfect.

Yes. There is racism, but we will never move on as long as we are being told how racist we are. And, a PP has been calling anyone who disagrees with his/her argument a racist. This is an anonymous forum. There is a PP has no idea of the background of the people to whom she is responding.

Thank you for your words of wisdom. Your empirical insight based on your extended observation - as opposed to some comments here that appear regurgitated out of Marxist textbooks - is very refreshing nowadays. One can only hope FCPS has a large pool of teachers with your life experience and perspective for the benefit of our students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am glad CRT is being taught.

But it’s not being taught.

Maybe there should be a punishment for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

ng at
You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

I feel as if it is conservatives who are trying to undermine the principles on which this country was founded.

It might be helpful if you gave some thought to what they are saying.
I was a teacher of primary grades. NO child benefits from being taught that he is a victim or a bully. You can help kids learn to be kind to others without demeaning them. Behavior can be bad without teaching kids that they are bad.

Critical Race Theory is in opposition to my beliefs. I do not believe that people are inherently racist. Why do I believe that? Because when I began teaching I taught in the projects. I taught extremely poor African American kids and extremely poor white kids. There were a lot of extremely rough kids--both Black and White. But, they played together and fought together without racial animus that I could detect. I do not ever recall hearing the "n" word used there--and that was when the word was much more prevalent than today.
One of my fondest memories was a very hot day after the kids were outside. We were having storytime with the kids at their desks because it was so hot and we had no air conditioning. Some of the kids put their heads on their desks because they were tired. I looked up from the story and two of the boys--one Black with a large Afro, and the other white with stringy blond hair--had their hands on each other's head feeling their hair. It was touching and perfect.

Yes. There is racism, but we will never move on as long as we are being told how racist we are. And, a PP has been calling anyone who disagrees with his/her argument a racist. This is an anonymous forum. There is a PP has no idea of the background of the people to whom she is responding.

Thank you for your words of wisdom. Your empirical insight based on your extended observation - as opposed to some comments here that appear regurgitated out of Marxist textbooks - is very refreshing nowadays. One can only hope FCPS has a large pool of teachers with your life experience and perspective for the benefit of our students.

Where is this being taught in the primary grades? Example please?

Current ES Teacher (posted at 08:48)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is CRT? Can you give an example of someone teaching it?

A very brief summary:

It is the theory that systemic racism is in society and is hampering the progress of African Americans.

It is not teaching that slavery was bad and that African Americans were mistreated. That is history and is being taught as it should be.

An example of inappropriate CRT: "privilege bingo"

So, you don't believe systemic racism exists? Do you also think vaccines are a woke conspiracy? Do you think the earth is flat?

NP. I object to privilege bingo in K-12 and I can't see any value in teaching any child that the land of the free and the home of the brave is oppressing them or that they are oppressors.

Can you explain the value to K-12 students to be taught that?

What is “privilege bingo?” I’ve never heard of this. Is that a Tucker Carlson Blog / newsmax type thing?

It was a bingo game played at Oakton high last year titled 'Identifying Your Privilege' . Students were to cover the squares that applied to them like being white, cisgender, parents are married, parents are employed, had their own room or had parents in the military. That was the only thing that caused it to make the 6pm NBC4 news - that military families were privileged. Otherwise it would have been swept under the rug and filed under "didn't happen".