Switching to Catholic school- tips?

[Anonymous]

https://www.academia.edu/21997616/A_Forgotten_Study_Abuse_in_School_100_Times_Worse_than_by_Priests#:~:text=But%20according%20to%20Charol%20Shakeshaft,times%20the%20abuse%20by%20priests.%22

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would deeply investigate what they do to protect kids against sexual assault.

You mean as compared to the sovereign immunity-protected public schools where the abuse problem (1) remains current, unlike Catholic schools with extremely effective protective programs; and (2) the (ongoing) abuse is estimated to be 100x the alleged problems of the past in Catholic institutions?

Look it up yourself.

Catholic entities have state of the art child protection programs, including training in spotting grooming and indicia of abuse. Teachers, staff, religious workers, parents, anyone with child contact has to go through training with refreshers. The standard of proof for a “credible” accusation is more or less whether it was impossible for the alleged conduct to occur, for example if the accused was on a different continent at all relevant times and can document that. Short of that level of defense, even the least plausible accusation imaginable is career ending.

So I’m answer to your request for comparison, Catholic schools are not merely degrees better, they are operating in an entirely different universe where child protection is at the forefront.

And you may not be interested in liability, but plenty of people who see an easy mark with a history of paying huge sums instead of defending even obviously specious claims are interested in that.

I’m relatively disinterested in whether we can sue and highly interested in what is being done to prevent. You haven’t actually answered the question about what they do and how it compares to public school.

Whose estimate is this “100X”? Citation please.

PS: forgot to mention the fingerprinting and background checks. To be a room mom. To watch over kids on the playground at recess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Understand that the teachers are poorly paid, may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching, are forbidden from being gay, likely have terrible health care, and have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal. I would look for a regular private school.

My kids Catholic school K teacher used to be a former attorney. Do I care she’s not certified in kindergarten?! Hell no! She’s amazing and pushes the kids who can handle it beyond what is expected for K. She’s loving and nurturing and a whole lot of fun. On the other hand the K teachers I work with in public (of course, not all) are counting the days to retirement. Many are dead behind the eyes just to get through the day. Who cares if they were certified for K 30 years ago?! They’d rather be doing anything else. I’ll take the teacher who believes in Catholic school and chooses it as a vocation despite the lower pay any day of the week!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just my honest opinion here. I had a horrible experience in Catholic school. Be prepared for potential brainwashing and bigotry. That's the main reason my parents pulled me out of Catholic school after 5th grade and sent me to public school. Additionally, one of my teachers wouldn't let me talk about evolution, so if your kids like science tell them not to talk about that.

You are lying or misremembering. Catholics are not anti-evolution. Whatever you actually got in trouble for, your child-based memory is probably blaming it on evolution, but you were probably just talking out of turn, not raising your hand, or discussing evolution during math class, or just being a smart alec. We all misremember things from our youth and this is a pretty easy one to suss out, given that Catholics have zero problem with teaching evolution and started the Big Bang theory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP,
I just read through this thread. It’s filled with a ton of misinformation.
1. Catholic schools teach Science. Catholics are not Creationists. Your child will learn evolution.
2. Catholic school teachers may be paid less, but they are often state certified and many are former public school teachers who got sick of their districts. (I should know. I was a former public school teacher and I now teach in a Catholic school. I got sick of admin / mismanagement, so I left and took my own kids to Catholic schools.)
3. Catholic schools are very on top of student safety. I attend more trainings and am held to higher standards regarding what I can/cannot do around children. This is most definitely a reaction to the Catholic priest scandals.

There’s more I caught, but I hope you get the point. Expect a lot of family involvement, which I consider a good thing. Expect more rigid rules, which I also consider a good thing. It will be a transition, but probably not as hard as you may be imagining.

OP here, thanks for this. i knew when i posted this there would be some of the usual Catholic bashing, so i am ignoring those posters. I appreciate your input and the tips i have gotten.

Just don’t be LGBTQ or a single parent and you’ll be okay.

Why do you insist on spreading lies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Understand that the teachers are poorly paid, may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching, are forbidden from being gay, likely have terrible health care, and have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal. I would look for a regular private school.

My kids Catholic school K teacher used to be a former attorney. Do I care she’s not certified in kindergarten?! Hell no! She’s amazing and pushes the kids who can handle it beyond what is expected for K. She’s loving and nurturing and a whole lot of fun. On the other hand the K teachers I work with in public (of course, not all) are counting the days to retirement. Many are dead behind the eyes just to get through the day. Who cares if they were certified for K 30 years ago?! They’d rather be doing anything else. I’ll take the teacher who believes in Catholic school and chooses it as a vocation despite the lower pay any day of the week!

Clearly, grammar is not your strong suit.

[Anonymous]

Catholic schools suppress individuality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholic schools suppress individuality.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I'm glad the kids are getting the message that they are part of a larger community and it's important to be a kid for others and not just looking out for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who is raised Catholic and who's entire family went to Catholic school, please do not.
Church should not be in education in any way. Most days we spent more time learning about scripture than about reading, writing, and math.

15 years of Catholic school: the word "scripture" is just not used among most Catholics in every day talk. That is a conservative Christian thing. It's actually a running joke that most Catholics, other than the super conservatives, don't even own a Bible let alone "study scripture." And the vast, vast, vast, majority of parochial schools, "religion" is one class period of the day. Yes, the community is all about religion and it can be used as to help teach other skills, like research, reading, and writing, etc. But instead of reading, writing and math? You are not being truthful.

Where did you go to school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholic schools suppress individuality.

How so? Ours doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,
I just read through this thread. It’s filled with a ton of misinformation.
1. Catholic schools teach Science. Catholics are not Creationists. Your child will learn evolution.
2. Catholic school teachers may be paid less, but they are often state certified and many are former public school teachers who got sick of their districts. (I should know. I was a former public school teacher and I now teach in a Catholic school. I got sick of admin / mismanagement, so I left and took my own kids to Catholic schools.) I’m a
3. Catholic schools are very on top of student safety. I attend more trainings and am held to higher standards regarding what I can/cannot do around children. This is most definitely a reaction to the Catholic priest scandals.

There’s more I caught, but I hope you get the point. Expect a lot of family involvement, which I consider a good thing. Expect more rigid rules, which I also consider a good thing. It will be a transition, but probably not as hard as you may be imagining.

OP here, thanks for this. i knew when i posted this there would be some of the usual Catholic bashing, so i am ignoring those posters. I appreciate your input and the tips i have gotten.

Just don’t be LGBTQ or a single parent and you’ll be okay.

I’m a gay mom at a Christian school attached to an Evangelical Church. Had no issues so far with any anti lgbt stuff. My kid is upper elem. Teachers are awesome and my kid has friends and I have made mom friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic schools suppress individuality.

How so? Ours doesn't.

Sexist uniforms, for one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't think of any situation where I would send a junior high or high school student to Catholic school. I prefer my children understand basic sexual education and their bodies.

So, what you’re saying is that as a parent you are incapable of conveying this information.

I think everyone in a school should be conveyed that information.

And you are under the misimpression that Catholic schools don't teach this? And pediatricians and parents don't also discuss this with kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Understand that the teachers are poorly paid, may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching, are forbidden from being gay, likely have terrible health care, and have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal. I would look for a regular private school.

My kids Catholic school K teacher used to be a former attorney. Do I care she’s not certified in kindergarten?! Hell no! She’s amazing and pushes the kids who can handle it beyond what is expected for K. She’s loving and nurturing and a whole lot of fun. On the other hand the K teachers I work with in public (of course, not all) are counting the days to retirement. Many are dead behind the eyes just to get through the day. Who cares if they were certified for K 30 years ago?! They’d rather be doing anything else. I’ll take the teacher who believes in Catholic school and chooses it as a vocation despite the lower pay any day of the week!

Clearly, grammar is not your strong suit.

You are right- probably bc I went to public and not Catholic school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Catholic schools suppress individuality.

How so? Ours doesn't.

Sexist uniforms, for one.

How are they sexist? Boys and girls can all wear the same thing.