White women try to "reclaim power" through #vanillagirl and #cleangirl beauty posts??

[Anonymous]

Ignoring the fragile poster who doesn’t seem to understand how message boards work because she is derailing.

Moving back to the subject at hand: There is a really interesting conversation to be had about the power of the beauty and fashion industries and how they are almost entirely controlled and dominated by white men, but that power structure is almost entirely not talked about by major beauty/fashion influencers. It is strange how men get such a pass in the beauty and fashion industries, especially because there are so many decades of documented abuse of women by men in the industries. And this abuse transcends race; women are abused regardless of race. They are such sick industries in many respects.

It is white men who benefit from degrading white women and POC women.

[Anonymous]

It is remarkable that we made it this far without anyone acknowledging the various white power movements involved in, say, the attempt to overthrow the 2020 Presidential election results. This is real, they are active and dangerous, and white people who do not do much to distinguish themselves from those folks should expect some unpleasant criticism at a minimum. Openly calling oneself a “vanilla girl” in that context is not a neutral act.

[Anonymous]

And all of this is why, despite loathing Trumpism, I am forced to identify as a conservative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is remarkable that we made it this far without anyone acknowledging the various white power movements involved in, say, the attempt to overthrow the 2020 Presidential election results. This is real, they are active and dangerous, and white people who do not do much to distinguish themselves from those folks should expect some unpleasant criticism at a minimum. Openly calling oneself a “vanilla girl” in that context is not a neutral act.

I’m sorry, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Are you expecting a teenage TikTok influencer talking about her favorite blush to give a complete exegesis on the origins of January 6th before each video?

This nonsense is why Democrats struggle to get Gen Z voters to the polls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is remarkable that we made it this far without anyone acknowledging the various white power movements involved in, say, the attempt to overthrow the 2020 Presidential election results. This is real, they are active and dangerous, and white people who do not do much to distinguish themselves from those folks should expect some unpleasant criticism at a minimum. Openly calling oneself a “vanilla girl” in that context is not a neutral act.

Ma’am, this is a thread about skincare and nails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And all of this is why, despite loathing Trumpism, I am forced to identify as a conservative.

Playground insults are more important to you than keeping kids safe at school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And all of this is why, despite loathing Trumpism, I am forced to identify as a conservative.

Playground insults are more important to you than keeping kids safe at school?

Okay add this silly comment to my list too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is remarkable that we made it this far without anyone acknowledging the various white power movements involved in, say, the attempt to overthrow the 2020 Presidential election results. This is real, they are active and dangerous, and white people who do not do much to distinguish themselves from those folks should expect some unpleasant criticism at a minimum. Openly calling oneself a “vanilla girl” in that context is not a neutral act.

Ma’am, this is a thread about skincare and nails.

I posted on the last page that I think it's silly to make an argument that this is an some organic movement among white woman with a white supremacist intent. But thinking that the beauty industry is immune to being weaponized by these movements, or as part of foreign influence campaigns is naive.

[Anonymous]

there are way too many real issues going on today. this ain 't one of them.

NPR is trying to fuel hate. stop listening to that crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Steffi Cao is either jealous or most likely just pushes a certain narrative for her own personal gain
Don’t be gullible and take anything like that seriously
What a croc!

That’s what I was thinking too…she’s probably looking for a career boosting article..sorry to be cynical!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is remarkable that we made it this far without anyone acknowledging the various white power movements involved in, say, the attempt to overthrow the 2020 Presidential election results. This is real, they are active and dangerous, and white people who do not do much to distinguish themselves from those folks should expect some unpleasant criticism at a minimum. Openly calling oneself a “vanilla girl” in that context is not a neutral act.

I’m sorry, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Are you expecting a teenage TikTok influencer talking about her favorite blush to give a complete exegesis on the origins of January 6th before each video?

This nonsense is why Democrats struggle to get Gen Z voters to the polls.

Huh? In the '22 midterms, Gen Z had record turnout and was pivotal in Dems' wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap, just read the Steffi Cao essay that the piece was predicated on, and... wow.

"The white girl’s soft power is in victimhood. And without it, they are unable to afford the luxuries of committing violence under the guise of it, as they have done for decades."

I, uh, am struggling with my allyship in this moment.

I'm not white and I think this kind of constant criticism of anything that white ppl do is bad for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Buzzfeed is just bringing the drama for clicks. And the idea that only white women can rock a polished but minimal aesthetic is so dumb

[Anonymous]

Simple makeup and beauty aesthetics have always been the default - it's not a trend. It's not new. Women of every color have embraced this look for generations. Gen Z just "discovered" this look after a decade of drag queen over-the-top make up clownry and suddenly it's new. Gen Z is so damn insufferable. They have no knowledge of history and they think they are special and inventive just by hashtagging a timeless beauty aesthetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy crap, just read the Steffi Cao essay that the piece was predicated on, and... wow.

"The white girl’s soft power is in victimhood. And without it, they are unable to afford the luxuries of committing violence under the guise of it, as they have done for decades."

I, uh, am struggling with my allyship in this moment.

I'm not white and I think this kind of constant criticism of anything that white ppl do is bad for everyone.

It's also fascinating to me how hard this criticism goes on young white women. You'd think random 25 yr old white women on Instagram were the locus of global power the way some of this criticism reads. Or 45 year old suburban soccer moms on Facebook.

Like have you noticed how rarely this kind of broad-brush criticism of white women focuses on actually powerful white women? Rich white women from generational wealth who are in positions to influence politics and culture? Like here's a lengthy conversation about soft power in the beauty industry that doesn't mention Anna Winter? Aerin Lauder is a billionaire who inherited a beauty empire, but the real enemy is a nameless 20-something influencer hawking Coastal Grandmother aesthetic from a studio apartment in Costa Mesa, California? Ok, I guess if your goal is clicks and not substantive change, that makes sense.