Northeastern Regular Decision is out

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Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)

let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..

Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..

Northeastern likes high stat kids.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10

This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities

First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.

1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)

NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.

TO rate for most of the 'elite' schools is 50-60%.
Northeastern is about average.

This is false. Nearly every top 20 is 30 percent or less TO, exceptions are Columbia and Candy which are closer to 40. 60 percent TO is an outlier, at least for schools that weren't TO prior to covid.

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These are some from the Notre Dame thread

"50% of Notre Dame is test optional. Washu is also 50% and Cornell is 70 % test optional."

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Anonymous wrote:mind boggling it’s only ranked #44 by USN given the level of selectivity and superlative quality of the admits. Is a gem that punches well above its weight, legitimately competing with the lower half of T25 (WashU, Cornell, Emory..)

let the haters hate but tippy top kids are applying (and often rejected) in droves..

Do they even admit any tippy top kids? They seems to prefer the next tier down..

Northeastern likes high stat kids.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10

This was when test scores were mendatory.
Top 20 for national universities

Cornell is

First of all, this list is from 2016. Wasn't that around the time NE was engaging in questionable tactics to rank higher in USNWR? And where are you getting top 20? These are the top 20. NE is 25, so not sure why you need to twist the truth here. Amazing how these boosters try to spin stuff to make their school look like something it absolutely is not.

1. Caltech (1544)
2. MIT (1507)
3. Olin College of Eng. (1506)
3. Chicago (1506)
5. Yale (1498)
5. Vanderbilt (1498)
7. Harvard (1497)
8. Princeton (1490)
9. Harvey Mudd (1484)
10, Rice (1482)
11. Stanford (1479)
12. Columbia (1473)
13. WashU (1469)
14. Northwestern (1460)
15. Penn (1457)
15. Brown (1457)
17. Notre Dame (1455)
18. Hopkins (1453)
19. Amherst (1451)
20. Duke (1450)

NE use to buy national merit finalists with full,scholarships. They don’t do that anymore and instead just take lots of kids test optional.

TO rate for most of the 'elite' schools is 50-60%.
Northeastern is about average.

This is false. Nearly every top 20 is 30 percent or less TO, exceptions are Columbia and Candy which are closer to 40. 60 percent TO is an outlier, at least for schools that weren't TO prior to covid.

Provide source?
These are some from the Notre Dame thread

"50% of Notre Dame is test optional. Washu is also 50% and Cornell is 70 % test optional."

College Confidential, Note that I am talking about the percentage of students accepted test optional, I believe you are referring to percentage of applicants overall.

all 2021 Admits: 100% - % Submitted SAT - % Submitted [ACT]
Caltech – 100% not reported (test blind)
Northeastern – 58%
Barnard/Vassar – 49%
Hamilton – 48%
CMC --47%
Middlebury/Smith – 46%
Tufts – 45%
Emory 1:Oxford / Tulane – 44%
Vanderbilt/Brandeis – 43%
WUSTL/RPI – 42%
Haveford/Wellesley – 41%
Harvey Mudd / Swarthmore – 40%
Cornell – 39%
…
Stanford – 21%
Brown/Penn – 19%
Northwestern – 18%
Chicago – 16%
Harvard – 15%
GeorgiaTech / Yale – 11%
Princeton – 9%
MIT: Negative 4% (some submitted both)

GT has since gone back to requiring test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:In all seriousness. Is Northeastern anyone’s real first choice..?

People also complain NEU admits so many from ED
So yes? Duh

WHY is it first choice though? What does it offer that BC Georgetown Carnegie Mellon or even U Florida do not offer?

In Boston - BC and Northeastern are very different experiences. Kids love both and both will give great educations - but if you want to be in the city, I can see where Northeastern (and BU) would edge out BC. Georgetown and Carnegie Mellon are harder admits (even if Northeastern fans don't want to admit it) and don't have huge bumps for early rounds that would capture the lower stats kids that also attend Northeastern (along with the high stats ones)

Some of the most popular majors are engineering. BC and GT don't even have it, so if you are engineering, they are automatically out.
UFlorida is a great option for FL instate, but for OOS with similar or little more, Northeastern wins.

Sure CMU CS and Engineering is harder admit
My kid was actually deciding between Northeastern CS+ Media Art vs CMU IS + IDEATE.
Yea my kid is not even a straight CS kid and CMU CS is out of reach.
Visited both and liked both schools, but decided CS might be better than IS degree in the long run although CMU had better prestige.
Ended up choosing Northeastern.

In summary, various reasons and decision points.

+1

Posters with their generalizations make no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s disturbing how many people fell for NE when the school quality is low but they gamed the rankings so well (read Selingo’s book).

It is more disturbing how few posters know anything about engineering and the engineering field.

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Anonymous wrote:I will bite. My student had no interest in applying so no acceptance or rejection here.

It is not getting the strivers hellbent on Harvard.

I researched it ahead of my DD looking at schools, one of my DD’s best friends in in EA (probably won’t go b/c not enough merit) so my DD is probably in range.

The coop program is either a huge sell or a huge turnoff. All kids hear about is the need to get internships, this is a huge part of the program. It has some really interesting majors and I have heard good things about the tour from friends.

I am from the west coast and have only been out here 28 years so probably not as indoctrinated into the NEU is a commuter school mindset.

Boston is a great town.

Kids have different priorities and that is the problem with the rankings in the first place.

I am firmly in the camp of NEU is not elite, but I am also firmly in the camp of it sounds like a great school for a lot of students.

What kind of morons associate a T50 school with insane acceptance rate to a commuter school.

It used to be known as a commuter school before they started investing in applicant marketing. I take the redline to work in DC and see the billboards everyday. Any school that offers an applicant to a school in BOSTON as a spot in LONDON is shifty.

Every school started as a commuter school.
It's 21st century already
Moron

You sound so intelligent when you name call.

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Anonymous wrote:NE has to yield protect because they draw a good amount of students who just check the box on the common app due to no supplemental essay and fee waivers. They need the large denominator to keep the acceptance rate low (and than only count direct Boston admits in the numerator, but that's a different story).

Exactly. And then fool the fools into thinking the school is good.

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Anonymous wrote:NE has to yield protect because they draw a good amount of students who just check the box on the common app due to no supplemental essay and fee waivers. They need the large denominator to keep the acceptance rate low (and than only count direct Boston admits in the numerator, but that's a different story).

Exactly. And then fool the fools into thinking the school is good.

Tell us what you actually know first hand about the school without Googling, because you make it so obvious you have never been. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:NE has to yield protect because they draw a good amount of students who just check the box on the common app due to no supplemental essay and fee waivers. They need the large denominator to keep the acceptance rate low (and than only count direct Boston admits in the numerator, but that's a different story).

Exactly. And then fool the fools into thinking the school is good.

Students choosing Northeastern actually find it excellent resulting in whopping 98% retention rate ranked #3 after MIT and UChicago with 99%

https://usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

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Anonymous wrote:I will bite. My student had no interest in applying so no acceptance or rejection here.

It is not getting the strivers hellbent on Harvard.

I researched it ahead of my DD looking at schools, one of my DD’s best friends in in EA (probably won’t go b/c not enough merit) so my DD is probably in range.

The coop program is either a huge sell or a huge turnoff. All kids hear about is the need to get internships, this is a huge part of the program. It has some really interesting majors and I have heard good things about the tour from friends.

I am from the west coast and have only been out here 28 years so probably not as indoctrinated into the NEU is a commuter school mindset.

Boston is a great town.

Kids have different priorities and that is the problem with the rankings in the first place.

I am firmly in the camp of NEU is not elite, but I am also firmly in the camp of it sounds like a great school for a lot of students.

What kind of morons associate a T50 school with insane acceptance rate to a commuter school.

It used to be known as a commuter school before they started investing in applicant marketing. I take the redline to work in DC and see the billboards everyday. Any school that offers an applicant to a school in BOSTON as a spot in LONDON is shifty.

Every school started as a commuter school.
It's 21st century already
Moron

You sound so intelligent when you name call.

Especially when they are wrong, especially about privates. My SLACs and law school certainly didn’t start as a commuter school. Both Ike the ivies) started as training ground for mission Aries and the clergy, or to educate the children of same

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Anonymous wrote:It’s disturbing how many people fell for NE when the school quality is low but they gamed the rankings so well (read Selingo’s book).

It is more disturbing how few posters know anything about engineering and the engineering field.

Any college counselor if a certain age knows that northeastern has put millions of dollars into gaming the USNWR

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Anonymous wrote:NE has to yield protect because they draw a good amount of students who just check the box on the common app due to no supplemental essay and fee waivers. They need the large denominator to keep the acceptance rate low (and than only count direct Boston admits in the numerator, but that's a different story).

Exactly. And then fool the fools into thinking the school is good.

Students choosing Northeastern actually find it excellent resulting in whopping 98% retention rate ranked #3 after MIT and UChicago with 99%

https://usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

But what proportion of the students is this? NE excludes all satellite campuses and NUin and global scholars from its data. So these stats are pretty meaningless.