Why is Notre Dame bot as selective as it's peers?

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

In which world?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

ND has elite level athletes the other schools do not, so their 35th percentile should be higher than ND's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

Georgetown doesn’t superscore and wants all tests. So any comparison with Georgetown is inaccurate when other scores allow as many takes as you want and subscores from different sittings..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

Georgetown doesn’t superscore and wants all tests. So any comparison with Georgetown is inaccurate when other scores allow as many takes as you want and subscores from different sittings..

And comparing ND (non-Jesuit) with a Jesuit institution (GU or BC) is ridiculous as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

Totally Wrong.
ND and GT business are a level up from Emory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

Totally Wrong.
ND and GT business are a level up from Emory.

No they aren't.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

Georgetown doesn’t superscore and wants all tests. So any comparison with Georgetown is inaccurate when other scores allow as many takes as you want and subscores from different sittings..

Doesn't matter, that's a 50 point difference from Emory and a 70 point difference from Cornell. Superscore doesn't account for 50 points maybe 30 points so I'll give you Notre Dame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

ND has elite level athletes the other schools do not, so their 35th percentile should be higher than ND's.

THIS. Try being a non-recruited athlete and see if YOU can get into ND. Not gonna happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

You know you actually have to give evidence to back up your claims otherwise it's just a baseless opinion from a faceless profile.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

ND has elite level athletes the other schools do not, so their 35th percentile should be higher than ND's.

THIS. Try being a non-recruited athlete and see if YOU can get into ND. Not gonna happen.

It's much easier to get into ND if you're URM(even Asian) than the others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So would you say Notre Dame (while I know is a good school) isn't worth the extra tuition over UVA for Va residents?

This is a thread about Notre Dame. Go away UVA booster.

I'll bite. There is never a universal objective answer to these questions. UVA is a great school and for some families, where finances are the main consideration, in-state tuition opportunities make no school where they would pay more "worth it". Other families money might not be an object, so they would go where they like best. They are all great schools - you just have to figure out what works for your circumstances (which no one knows on an anon board).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

Totally Wrong.
ND and GT business are a level up from Emory.

No they aren't.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

Dummy...this is a graduate school ranking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

Totally Wrong.
ND and GT business are a level up from Emory.

No they aren't.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

We are talking about undergrad.
Ranking wise, USN&WR ranked them all same, but then they also have Ohio and UIUC ranked same as well.

Poets&Quant ranked ND and GT just little higher.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/

In reality, Emory is clearly a level down.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

If you have a kid interested in business major, you better not provide any advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

No horse in this race but I think this basically reaffirms my existing impression. Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, etc. are still in a different league than Notre Dame, and instead their peer set is more like WashU, Georgetown, and Emory. Those are great schools too but not quite the level of the first grouping.

You could easily put Cornell, Vandy, Northwestern in the second grouping.

Cornell, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Georgetown and Notre Dame are all a tier above WUSTL and Emory.

That's a huge lie. Emory business is better WashU, ND, Georgetown, and Vandy. WashU medicine is better than all of them. And they're all ranked around the same.

Totally Wrong.
ND and GT business are a level up from Emory.

No they aren't.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

We are talking about undergrad.
Ranking wise, USN&WR ranked them all same, but then they also have Ohio and UIUC ranked same as well.

Poets&Quant ranked ND and GT just little higher.
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/2/

In reality, Emory is clearly a level down.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools

If you have a kid interested in business major, you better not provide any advice.

I was talking about the university as a whole not just undergrad hense why I said MEDICINE is better at WashU. Some of you love moving the goalposts. Also that's just Wallstreet, Emory has much better consulting placement
https://www.bloomberg.com/business-schools/industries/consulting/
Here Emory ranks 2nd for consulting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/consulting-banking-tech-business-schools-120059544.html
Usnews ranks Emory higher because it takes more into account than just finance.