Bathroom security announcement

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Nobody here cares about education and is just concerned with making school as miserable as is humanely possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

Because SROs don't work and only make things worse.

So, why did all 26 Principals want to keep them? Do you volunteer in the schools and check the bathrooms?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody here cares about education and is just concerned with making school as miserable as is humanely possible.

those would be the social justice warriors who care more about certain group's feelings than actually closing the achievement gap and ensuring that kids are safe and learning in school.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they’ll take these concerns into consideration when designing new schools or planning extensive renovations to existing schools. If they’re retrofitting bathroom doors now, don’t build the exact same bathroom setups in the future.

I’d rather have kids vaping in the bathroom while my child has access as needed than to limit access for everyone. Limit bathroom privileges for kids who are caught breaking rules in the restroom, not kids who are behaving.

I agree with the latter part of your statement but not the former.

Tolerating and turning a blind eye to substance abuse in school bathrooms is very, very dangerous to the person using and the second-hand effects, both medically and emotionally on other students, should not be swept under the rug because people don't want to make a decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

Because SROs don't work and only make things worse.

So, why did all 26 Principals want to keep them? Do you volunteer in the schools and check the bathrooms?

Probably the same reasons they had them at Parkland and Uvalde. They mistakenly believed they'd help when in fact they don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

I still live there and it's actually better now than 10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

Fact: Crime was much much worse long before any idea to “defund police” or restorative justice. Your hyperbole is not helping anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

I still live there and it's actually better now than 10 years ago.

Yes, it's better if you like the human waste and needles all over the place, oh, and the pimping and hooking.

https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-sex-workers-prostitution-neighbors-speak-out-capp-street-sf/12764865/

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

Fact: Crime was much much worse long before any idea to “defund police” or restorative justice. Your hyperbole is not helping anyone.

really? Is crime better in MCPS? Is that why they had to send out that announcement about the bathroom security? Is MCPS announcement "hyperbole"?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

Because SROs don't work and only make things worse.

So, why did all 26 Principals want to keep them? Do you volunteer in the schools and check the bathrooms?

Probably the same reasons they had them at Parkland and Uvalde. They mistakenly believed they'd help when in fact they don't.

It is very pathetic that you keep mentioned incidences that did not occur in MoCo let alone MD.

But in any case, why don't you volunteer in the HS and confront the drug dealers and users?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

If only there were things society could do besides punishing people and locking them up.

and how is that working for our society? Have you seen cities like Portland and SF with their "defund the police" strategy? I used to live in the Bay Area. SF was never that bad when I lived there 10 yrs ago. The defund the police strategy has really made SF go down hill fast.

Except that they didn't defund the police.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.