Bathroom security announcement

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

Weird because I read SROs just make kids less safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

And indeed, it's way worse. So let's do something about it.

It reminds me of the politician who said if you take out all the homicides and armed robberies, Silver Spring is actually a very safe place.

"Let's" who? And do what? Besides the solution to all problems, apparently, of bringing back SROs.

bringing back SROs can be part of the solution, just as getting devices to prop open the bathroom doors.

One thing we know for certain: whatever MCPS has been doing isn't working.

We have security guards now who don't seem to do much about checking the bathrooms regularly. And, kids don't care about security guards. They know at worst, they will be forced to engage in Restorative Justice, as if they really deters them from doing bad sh1t.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

I wonder why you keep bringing up 2 instances out of how many, and also instances that didn't happen in MoCo let alone in MD.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

Weird because I read SROs just make kids less safe.

Yes, they make kids who do bad sh1t less safe. Your kids who aren't doing bad sh1t are safer with SROs. That's how my kids feel. Why do other kids' feelings trump my kids' safety?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

What's your basis for this outlandish claim?

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

Weird because I read SROs just make kids less safe.

Yes, they make kids who do bad sh1t less safe. Your kids who aren't doing bad sh1t are safer with SROs. That's how my kids feel. Why do other kids' feelings trump my kids' safety?

Why are your kids' feelings more important than other kids' feelings?

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

Weird because I read SROs just make kids less safe.

Yes, they make kids who do bad sh1t less safe. Your kids who aren't doing bad sh1t are safer with SROs. That's how my kids feel. Why do other kids' feelings trump my kids' safety?

Why are your kids' feelings more important than other kids' feelings?

Until the SROs pull a Tyre Nichols and then people realize how much worse they make things.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

I wonder why that didn't happen when they were present at Parkland and Uvalde?

Because SROs don't work and only make things worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

LOL I mean, yeah. Obviously. And that's why the climate today is way worse than in the '90s and before. Four out of the 5 incidents I cited involved guns and fentanyl. The only one that didn't were the B-CC girls who passed out due to alcohol, not fentanyl.

But the point is that it's not a specifically MCPS issue. There have always been fights in school. There have always been drugs in schools, and in school bathrooms. Now that we're swimming in guns and fentanyl, they're in the schools too. MCPS has to deal with the consequences of the guns and fentanyl without being able to do anything about the causes of the guns and fentanyl.

Ok. So what's your point? Because MCPS is not the root cause of the fentanyl and guns issue, it shouldn't respond and react to it as it infiltrates and finds a foothold within its schools?

The question is, HOW should it respond and react? The punitive/carceral model isn't effective in general society, let alone with children.

So what's your alternative? Because the status quo is hurting staff and students.

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I hope they’ll take these concerns into consideration when designing new schools or planning extensive renovations to existing schools. If they’re retrofitting bathroom doors now, don’t build the exact same bathroom setups in the future.

I’d rather have kids vaping in the bathroom while my child has access as needed than to limit access for everyone. Limit bathroom privileges for kids who are caught breaking rules in the restroom, not kids who are behaving.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I get it -- if kids are vaping/smoking weed in the restroom all the time, why doesn't security patrol and punish the offenders? Seems like the good kids are suffering unnecessarily.

I asked my DCs if the security guards sweep the bathrooms. This is what they said:

"They stand outside the bathrooms, and yell, 'Go to class', then walk away".

So, they don't bother to check if the kids are actually going to class or whether there is drug use or other scary sh1t going on in there. IMO, the security guards don't really care. They are just phoning it in, and getting a paycheck. I say we need SROs back to sweep the bathrooms. Oh, but certain PoC might get arrested more for doing something illegal, so that would be not good, per the equity police.

I am so sick of this sh1t. I have 3 years left in MCPS.

You want armed police officers for routine patrols of high school bathrooms?

Yes. The security guards aren't doing anything, and even if they catch the kids, there are no consequences. So, if you want real "teeth" as a PP stated, then you need SROs to sweep the bathrooms. That is the only way to stop these kids - fear of arrest because they don't care if they get suspended or have detention.

Let's just go ahead and combine the prison board and the school board, for greater efficiency.

what's your solution? Give them a hug and tell them to go to class?

Obviously those are the only two possible options.

According to the ^PP that was the solution they took from people's post about having SROs.

SROs are supposed to make bathrooms safe now?

People in general, including kids, are less likely to do bad things in the presence of cops. Kids don't care about security guards.

Weird because I read SROs just make kids less safe.

Yes, they make kids who do bad sh1t less safe. Your kids who aren't doing bad sh1t are safer with SROs. That's how my kids feel. Why do other kids' feelings trump my kids' safety?

Why are your kids' feelings more important than other kids' feelings?

well we can go back and forth on this, right?

So, what's your answer? Do nothing? Restorative Justice? *snort* like that's helped.

So, yea, until you can come up with a better proven solution, SROs should be in the schools, checking the bathrooms. All 26 Principals wanted the SROs. Why don't you walk the hallways, confront drug dealing/using kids in the bathrooms, and tell them to go to class or you'll tell their mommies.