If your child wants to be a teacher, is it better to go to a school with a bachelor’s in education

[Anonymous]

I'm the PP from 17:18. If I weren't so close to retirement, I'd be long gone. Teaching has changed. The students are still good, but the working conditions are abysmal. My colleagues say that I "get away" with doing what I want because I'm old, but they haven't discovered that they have a voice and can say "no" to an administrator without anything happening to them. I have a great retirement plan. My county has changed the benefits twice since I was hired. The young people have nothing as good as I have. Why would they stay? Why should they stay? I'm glad that the other poster's daughter with tons of private sector money can teach without worry, but that narrative isn't the norm.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it's the Daily Mail, but it's one article of several for same woman. And it could be any teacher, anywhere:

Former teacher reveals why she quit her job to work at Costco

https://mol.im/a/11676229 via https://dailym.ai/android

P.S.
No degree needed for Costco. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get the BA in education because it will include opportunities for student teaching. Minor in a subject area of interest.

Yes do this

[Anonymous]

Different states have different requirements...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She should be aware, if she's not, that private school teachers nearly always make far less than their public school counterparts, and there is no associated pension.

I went to a high-ranking private school, and most of my teachers were very good but I can't think of any that had degrees in education. They nearly all had at least a Master's degree, however (in their field, not education), if not a PhD.

Few to no behavioral issues to deal with, few safety issues and more autonomy.

I'll grant you the safety issues and the autonomy, but I promise there are plenty of behavioral issues in private high schools.

Discipline can include expulsion or suspension for up to a year at most--or all--private schools.

Families who send their children to private schools typically place a high value on education. Leads to better parental support.

This is all true on paper, but the reality is that private schools need students who can afford the tuition. There are going to be students there who are not interested in doing the work, and they can't be gotten rid of because their parents are too wealthy, and the kids know it. Some of the kids there will have been thrown out (or "not asked back") from their previous private schools (this is a typical way private schools pawn off students with behavioral problems... they just quietly suggest they go someplace else next year). There are drugs, just like in a public school.

There are benefits to teaching in a private school, absolutely. But don't go into it assuming private school is a dreamland where the kids are all eager to learn and respectful. I am speaking from experience.

+1 I taught at a private day school before I received my state teaching certificate. Some of the private school kids were frequently disrespectful to teachers and staff. On the whole, I much prefer the middle class public school students I now work with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP from 17:18. If I weren't so close to retirement, I'd be long gone. Teaching has changed. The students are still good, but the working conditions are abysmal. My colleagues say that I "get away" with doing what I want because I'm old, but they haven't discovered that they have a voice and can say "no" to an administrator without anything happening to them. I have a great retirement plan. My county has changed the benefits twice since I was hired. The young people have nothing as good as I have. Why would they stay? Why should they stay? I'm glad that the other poster's daughter with tons of private sector money can teach without worry, but that narrative isn't the norm.

+1 I am also close to retirement and as of the past 5 years or so, I never recommend teaching to anyone who asks. Less money, more headaches, fewer retirement benefits for new teachers. I liked the work schedule because I have children and enjoyed having summers and holiday breaks off with them, but the rise in flexible work options makes this less of an issue now than it was when I started teaching.

[Anonymous]

My daughter got her BA in a social science, then did a year in Americorps. She then got a job with a charter school; they paid for her education MA