Prince Harry’s book

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The book may help the public hold them accountable because it will change their opinions of them. However, I wonder if the royals themselves will read the book?

I wonder too. If they did it should certainly soften them toward him. If they actually have any humanity at all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s my understanding it’s breaking records with regard to the sales. Obviously people are very interested.

https://apnews.com/article/prince-harry-book-sales-2853618b7ca1591d67e870171c3aef99

I’m not surprised. It pulls back the curtain and gives us a person look at certain members of the family. They must be beyond pissed 😂

Easy to attack your family when you know they can't fight back. Cowardly.

Haha. Yes. They can fight back. They do. They have. That’s one of the points in the book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The issue is perspective. Is it actual truth that his family has done nothign but emotionally abuse and traumatize and silence and gaslight him his entire life? Is that really all he ever experienced before leaving a couple years ago? That every other story or picture was all an orchestrated lie to hide the abuse and to create a faux appearance?

While that may be his perspective, it isn't necessarily the reality or totality of what actually happened. Obviously none of us know what went on behind closed doors and maybe his entire life was void of love or anything positive and only about abuse and trauma and mistreatment and pain and he finally escaped the clutches of an abhorent family.

Time changes how we see things and siblings within a family can also tell very different accounts of the same events and experiences from their own perspective. If William took back his power would he also tell the same story or would his perspective of some of the events that Harry has described be different - and then who is telling the 'truth'?

Accountability depends on perspective and perspective is shaped by many factors. There may be some who think he is accountable and needs to take accountability for hurt and pain he caused. Does he see his role in the pain of others?

I don't know any of them. However I would never read a memoir and think that was the truth, especially when told in this way (for major profit) and with the inconsistencies of this one. Given also the hypocrisy of his and Meghan's attempts to silence her father and to deny him his narrative and to refuse to reconcile with him because he too sold pictures / stories about the family for profit.

[Anonymous]

Does he say anything positive or negative about princesses, Eugénie and Beatrice? Is Pippa Middleton mentioned? Just curious I have not read the book obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Meghan planning on writing a book about her life?

I am not sure. But Megan’s sister sister has written a book about Meghan that’s partially titled “part one.” This would make one assume that another book by her sister at least is in the pipeline.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan’s team has taken stories to the press as often as anyone else. They have leaked a ton of stories. Their comms team calls the press or has a third party reach out or leaks through their own sources.

And they aren’t just telling their own story, they are using this to try and also tell stories about family, leak private info, make family look bad etc.

I don’t quite get it.

Where’s your evidence???

We know H and M provided stories for their “unauthorized” documentary even though they denied having any part of it. That is documented in court.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/11/uk/meghan-apology-court-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

[Anonymous]

The whole thing is probably staged. The royalty is about entertainment. People are so gullible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The issue is perspective. Is it actual truth that his family has done nothign but emotionally abuse and traumatize and silence and gaslight him his entire life? Is that really all he ever experienced before leaving a couple years ago? That every other story or picture was all an orchestrated lie to hide the abuse and to create a faux appearance?

While that may be his perspective, it isn't necessarily the reality or totality of what actually happened. Obviously none of us know what went on behind closed doors and maybe his entire life was void of love or anything positive and only about abuse and trauma and mistreatment and pain and he finally escaped the clutches of an abhorent family.

Time changes how we see things and siblings within a family can also tell very different accounts of the same events and experiences from their own perspective. If William took back his power would he also tell the same story or would his perspective of some of the events that Harry has described be different - and then who is telling the 'truth'?

Accountability depends on perspective and perspective is shaped by many factors. There may be some who think he is accountable and needs to take accountability for hurt and pain he caused. Does he see his role in the pain of others?

I don't know any of them. However I would never read a memoir and think that was the truth, especially when told in this way (for major profit) and with the inconsistencies of this one. Given also the hypocrisy of his and Meghan's attempts to silence her father and to deny him his narrative and to refuse to reconcile with him because he too sold pictures / stories about the family for profit.

If your actually read the book you’d read how nuanced it is. It certainly doesn’t say that his family have done nothing but emotional abuse him. It’s clear that there is a lot of love there, but they have a very hard time showing it:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does he say anything positive or negative about princesses, Eugénie and Beatrice? Is Pippa Middleton mentioned? Just curious I have not read the book obviously.

Eugene and Jack are mentioned quite a bit. They are clearly good friends. Beatrice and Pippa aren’t mentioned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan’s team has taken stories to the press as often as anyone else. They have leaked a ton of stories. Their comms team calls the press or has a third party reach out or leaks through their own sources.

And they aren’t just telling their own story, they are using this to try and also tell stories about family, leak private info, make family look bad etc.

I don’t quite get it.

Where’s your evidence???

We know H and M provided stories for their “unauthorized” documentary even though they denied having any part of it. That is documented in court.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/11/uk/meghan-apology-court-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

Ok, so what negative stories about royals did they leak to the tabloids? What stories did Megan “leak”, specifically?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The issue is perspective. Is it actual truth that his family has done nothign but emotionally abuse and traumatize and silence and gaslight him his entire life? Is that really all he ever experienced before leaving a couple years ago? That every other story or picture was all an orchestrated lie to hide the abuse and to create a faux appearance?

While that may be his perspective, it isn't necessarily the reality or totality of what actually happened. Obviously none of us know what went on behind closed doors and maybe his entire life was void of love or anything positive and only about abuse and trauma and mistreatment and pain and he finally escaped the clutches of an abhorent family.

Time changes how we see things and siblings within a family can also tell very different accounts of the same events and experiences from their own perspective. If William took back his power would he also tell the same story or would his perspective of some of the events that Harry has described be different - and then who is telling the 'truth'?

Accountability depends on perspective and perspective is shaped by many factors. There may be some who think he is accountable and needs to take accountability for hurt and pain he caused. Does he see his role in the pain of others?

I don't know any of them. However I would never read a memoir and think that was the truth, especially when told in this way (for major profit) and with the inconsistencies of this one. Given also the hypocrisy of his and Meghan's attempts to silence her father and to deny him his narrative and to refuse to reconcile with him because he too sold pictures / stories about the family for profit.

So you haven’t read the book?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does he say anything positive or negative about princesses, Eugénie and Beatrice? Is Pippa Middleton mentioned? Just curious I have not read the book obviously.

Eugene and Jack are mentioned quite a bit. They are clearly good friends. Beatrice and Pippa aren’t mentioned.

Should clarify nothing negative about “Euge” other than that when Megan meet the queen for the first time, Euge and Jack were there too and acted very differently because of the formality of a brief meeting. He seemed Very fond of them so only positive other than that. No mention of Zara either. Brief mention of her brother and his marriage and whether he asked the queen permission.

He says lots of positive things about his entire family, btw. Esp about how he craved time with his dad and wished he could hug “granny”, for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The issue is perspective. Is it actual truth that his family has done nothign but emotionally abuse and traumatize and silence and gaslight him his entire life? Is that really all he ever experienced before leaving a couple years ago? That every other story or picture was all an orchestrated lie to hide the abuse and to create a faux appearance?

While that may be his perspective, it isn't necessarily the reality or totality of what actually happened. Obviously none of us know what went on behind closed doors and maybe his entire life was void of love or anything positive and only about abuse and trauma and mistreatment and pain and he finally escaped the clutches of an abhorent family.

Time changes how we see things and siblings within a family can also tell very different accounts of the same events and experiences from their own perspective. If William took back his power would he also tell the same story or would his perspective of some of the events that Harry has described be different - and then who is telling the 'truth'?

Accountability depends on perspective and perspective is shaped by many factors. There may be some who think he is accountable and needs to take accountability for hurt and pain he caused. Does he see his role in the pain of others?

I don't know any of them. However I would never read a memoir and think that was the truth, especially when told in this way (for major profit) and with the inconsistencies of this one. Given also the hypocrisy of his and Meghan's attempts to silence her father and to deny him his narrative and to refuse to reconcile with him because he too sold pictures / stories about the family for profit.

So you haven’t read the book?

You have to read the post I quoted and was responding to. It was from someone who just read the book and whose refletion was "It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that."

Personally no, I haven't read it. I don't spend money to read people air their families' dirty laundry and tell little secrets about other people's personal lives. I don't need to know that Charlotte cried about her dress and that Kate was a pain for saying it didn't fit. Or that Charles carried a teddy bear. I am a really private person and so just not into supporting that. I have read some memoirs but always take them with a grain of salt. A memoir isn't an aubiography. It isn't about historical or factual events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s my understanding it’s breaking records with regard to the sales. Obviously people are very interested.

https://apnews.com/article/prince-harry-book-sales-2853618b7ca1591d67e870171c3aef99

I’m not surprised. It pulls back the curtain and gives us a person look at certain members of the family. They must be beyond pissed 😂

Easy to attack your family when you know they can't fight back. Cowardly.

Haha. Yes. They can fight back. They do. They have. That’s one of the points in the book.

Yes, we know that is one of Harry's points. He's actually made it often.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in the fight and could care less about the royals but bought the book because I work with survivors of abuse and from the tidbits I knew, I really felt empathy for Harry. It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that. He says all he wants is accountability from the people that hurt him but all they did was call him paranoid and delusional. That’s not how you repair relationships and clearly the monarchy cares more about their image than anything else.

The issue is perspective. Is it actual truth that his family has done nothign but emotionally abuse and traumatize and silence and gaslight him his entire life? Is that really all he ever experienced before leaving a couple years ago? That every other story or picture was all an orchestrated lie to hide the abuse and to create a faux appearance?

While that may be his perspective, it isn't necessarily the reality or totality of what actually happened. Obviously none of us know what went on behind closed doors and maybe his entire life was void of love or anything positive and only about abuse and trauma and mistreatment and pain and he finally escaped the clutches of an abhorent family.

Time changes how we see things and siblings within a family can also tell very different accounts of the same events and experiences from their own perspective. If William took back his power would he also tell the same story or would his perspective of some of the events that Harry has described be different - and then who is telling the 'truth'?

Accountability depends on perspective and perspective is shaped by many factors. There may be some who think he is accountable and needs to take accountability for hurt and pain he caused. Does he see his role in the pain of others?

I don't know any of them. However I would never read a memoir and think that was the truth, especially when told in this way (for major profit) and with the inconsistencies of this one. Given also the hypocrisy of his and Meghan's attempts to silence her father and to deny him his narrative and to refuse to reconcile with him because he too sold pictures / stories about the family for profit.

So you haven’t read the book?

You have to read the post I quoted and was responding to. It was from someone who just read the book and whose refletion was "It’s clear to me that Harry was emotionally abused and gaslit his entire life, traumatized from the loss of his mother and his inability to have his own narrative .. and now he has taken his power back by using his voice. It may seem extreme to some, but when you’ve been silenced by a machine that is only about appearances your whole life then this is the repercussion of that."

Personally no, I haven't read it. I don't spend money to read people air their families' dirty laundry and tell little secrets about other people's personal lives. I don't need to know that Charlotte cried about her dress and that Kate was a pain for saying it didn't fit. Or that Charles carried a teddy bear. I am a really private person and so just not into supporting that. I have read some memoirs but always take them with a grain of salt. A memoir isn't an aubiography. It isn't about historical or factual events.

I knew you didn’t read based on your post which I skimmed. Quite a lot of words for the not-interested-in-Harry set. The poster commented on her impression of a Harry and you disagreed with her without reading the book. You also failed to appreciate the nuance because you haven’t read them book. My criticism of you, btw, is not about your views on Harry. It’s about being on the books thread in a post about a book, having lots of opinions, and not reading the book.

p.s. check out the library. That’s where I got my copy.