Lockdown at Einstein High School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

The crazy thing about this is the student that was causing the problem had brass knuckles and a knife.
Just by happenstance, while they were searching the school, they randomly found a pellet gun. So there are guns being left around the school that no one knew about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

The crazy thing about this is the student that was causing the problem had brass knuckles and a knife.
Just by happenstance, while they were searching the school, they randomly found a pellet gun. So there are guns being left around the school that no one knew about.

That gun could have been stashed by the student of interest, they haven't determined its ownership yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

The crazy thing about this is the student that was causing the problem had brass knuckles and a knife.
Just by happenstance, while they were searching the school, they randomly found a pellet gun. So there are guns being left around the school that no one knew about.

That gun could have been stashed by the student of interest, they haven't determined its ownership yet.

Then how did they determine the brass knuckles and knife were his, but not the gun? Which of those items is easier to fingerprint?

[Anonymous]

My understanding is that the brass knuckles, knife and marijuana were found in his back pack. The pellet gun was found somewhere else and they haven't determined the ownership of that yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that the brass knuckles, knife and marijuana were found in his back pack. The pellet gun was found somewhere else and they haven't determined the ownership of that yet.

So you think he decided to keeps the drugs and deadly weapons on his person, but stash the toy? Interesting thought process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that the brass knuckles, knife and marijuana were found in his back pack. The pellet gun was found somewhere else and they haven't determined the ownership of that yet.

So you think he decided to keeps the drugs and deadly weapons on his person, but stash the toy? Interesting thought process.

Teenagers are not known for their good decision-making.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

And a bb gun pellet can cause injuries, if shot at close range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

And a bb gun pellet can cause injuries, if shot at close range.

I was shot with a bb gun at not that close range. It bled and it hurt, a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

You keep repeating this palaver. Please explain your distinction between SROs and "real cops."

Can you explain the difference between swat, homicide, detective, and a motorcycle cop?

[Anonymous]

What should be legal is that BB guns should not look like real guns. And this is something cops agree with I wonder why gun nuts don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

And a bb gun pellet can cause injuries, if shot at close range.

So can a paper clip when shot with a rubber band.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

And a bb gun pellet can cause injuries, if shot at close range.

So can a paper clip when shot with a rubber band.

Okay....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

You keep repeating this palaver. Please explain your distinction between SROs and "real cops."

Can you explain the difference between swat, homicide, detective, and a motorcycle cop?

I can but I’m not sure why you are asking. Like SROs they are all police officers certified through the state law enforcement agency and have all graduated the MCPD academy or were lateral hires from a similar agency where they went through an academy. They all meet certain annual requirements for fitness, training and skills and are all generally covered by the same CBA (until they are promoted above a certain rank). Different units have additional training requirements. SWAT, for instance, has different/additional training requirements, as do SROs.
I’m not actually sure MCPD has a motorcycle unit—they have a ceremonial unit that does things like funerals and parades on motorcycle but I don’t think they have regular police response on motorcycle, but I could be wrong about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying

This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.

Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).

A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.

Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

So you're not bothered. Noted.

The rest of us who care about our kids' wellbeing and have a moral code will continue the discussion.

I am bothered but I also don’t think the sky is falling,

You seem to lack moral codes actually.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're bothered but your response to back-to-back high school lockdowns and a laundry list of violent or threatening incidents in MCPS is that it was like this or even worse in the 70s or 80s. You're a horrible person.

Dp. I went to Einstein in the 80's. A friend of mine brought a gun to school. It was in her locker and she showed it to me. Someone must have seen it, too, because my friend was later quietly removed from class and I never saw her again. My nephew goes to Einstein and he said there was a lockdown and a classroom was raided to arrest a student who brought a gun to school. He showed me texts from classes where they tilted tables and hid behind them. I'm not going to say which way was better, but very few children were affected, let alone knew about the gun when I was a student. Of course, no one had a cell phone then.

To be fair back in the 80s even if someone brought a gun to school the concept that the person with the gun would go through the school and just start opening fire was unheard of. Present day, you hear gun in school and your first thought is there is going to be an active shooter.

Yeah DH grew up in flyover country and it was common for HS students to keep a gun in their locker to go hunting after school! Pre-Columbine, obviously.

Yeah, there were kids with guns and knives in my HS in the 80s and you just stayed away from them. Someone did end up getting shot in the parking lot in 1990 or so — I think it was a fight over a girl or something like that. But I still don’t think it led to major changes. But my HS Junior was a 1st grader when Sandy Hook happened, and in MS when Parkland happened. Their trigger response is just entirely different than ours was. They’ve grown up with this as a reality in a way that we really didn’t — even after columbine, which really did seem like a one-off freak occurrence, until it wasn’t.
I still think most kids are not really at risk from any of this — the drug dealers don’t want to shoot a bunch of random studious HS kids, and the guy that brings a gun to school because someone challenged him to a fight is also not likely to shoot my kid. But I understand the kids are scared, and I understand why they are scared. And the schools are in a situation where they need to react to every instance in this way, which probably increases the anxiety all around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.

And a bb gun pellet can cause injuries, if shot at close range.

I was shot with a bb gun at not that close range. It bled and it hurt, a lot.

When I was a kid we often played with BB guns and that resulted in us often getting shot by them even at close range. It was a terrible idea to give us these but not like anyone got seriously hurt either.