Lockdown at Einstein High School

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I always remember that one running away from the school shooting in FL. Now that's the SRO behavior we've come to expect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I always remember that one running away from the school shooting in FL. Now that's the SRO behavior we've come to expect.

That’s the SRO behavior *you* have come to expect. I’ve actually worked with multiple SROs and have seen first-hand the positive impact they can have on the school community. (Again… that’s why PGCPS decided to keep them.)

I see you haven’t defended the initial “they literally never stopped an incident” argument. I’ll assume you now accept that isn’t true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: Einstein. Kid said he had a gun but none was found.

Thanks for this update.

[Anonymous]

BB gun

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I’ve responded to you before and you are lying.

You really aren’t willing to accept reality. Why is that?

My situation is documented in this report:
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/BTFR566C330D/$file/SROs%20%20Powerpoint-%20BOE%20(1)%20Final%209-14-2020.pdf
And
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/BX4VD4802E1E/%24file/CEO%27s%20Rec%20School%20Safety%20and%20Security%20Report%2001142021.pdf

I can back up my story quite easily since it was reported in school and county security reports. I assume you’ll pretend those don’t exist because… you don’t want to accept them?

I was working for PGCPS at the time, a school system that overwhelming decided to keep SROs. (The reports will show that, too. You can ignore those facts as well, if you want to.)

Nothing in those documents showed they stopped anything. It actually shows they let kids in school with weapons,

Alsobrooks has to hedge her bets when she runs for governor or senate.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I always remember that one running away from the school shooting in FL. Now that's the SRO behavior we've come to expect.

That’s the SRO behavior *you* have come to expect. I’ve actually worked with multiple SROs and have seen first-hand the positive impact they can have on the school community. (Again… that’s why PGCPS decided to keep them.)

I see you haven’t defended the initial “they literally never stopped an incident” argument. I’ll assume you now accept that isn’t true.

You still have not posted 1 time an SRO stoped anything. Again they are after the fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I always remember that one running away from the school shooting in FL. Now that's the SRO behavior we've come to expect.

That’s the SRO behavior *you* have come to expect. I’ve actually worked with multiple SROs and have seen first-hand the positive impact they can have on the school community. (Again… that’s why PGCPS decided to keep them.)

I see you haven’t defended the initial “they literally never stopped an incident” argument. I’ll assume you now accept that isn’t true.

You still have not posted 1 time an SRO stoped anything. Again they are after the fact.

Okay. I’ll spell this out quite clearly, although I suspect your hate won’t let you see it:

I have seen SROs stop 3 incidents over the course of 2 years. Two in the hall and one in my classroom. A student reported to me that another student had a large knife in their backpack and had said they had intention to use it. I quietly called the office, and the SRO reported to my room. He called the student into the hallway, had a calm conversation, and the student willingly handed over the knife. So… the SRO did nothing, according to you? I do not have the skills to handle that situation, and I am very grateful to this day that it ended calmly and without incident. This could have been one of those local news stories of a kid attacked in a bathroom. Thank you, SRO!

I had another student who came to school crying one day because of something that happened the night before. The SRO, who happened to be walking by, joined our conversation. After asking the right questions and after sincerely connecting with the student, he was able to stop the child from a drastic action AND he was able to get support. Once again, I do not have the immediate contacts the SRO was able to draw upon that day. Once again, I’m grateful for the actions of that SRO.

I can think of four students I know WELL who are in a better place today because of an SRO. It is absolutely wrong of you to deny these truths or those students’ opportunities for safety and wellness because you simply don’t like SROs.

I live in a real world with real problems. I want every resource for my students, many of whom don’t have many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I’ve responded to you before and you are lying.

You really aren’t willing to accept reality. Why is that?

My situation is documented in this report:
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/BTFR566C330D/$file/SROs%20%20Powerpoint-%20BOE%20(1)%20Final%209-14-2020.pdf
And
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/BX4VD4802E1E/%24file/CEO%27s%20Rec%20School%20Safety%20and%20Security%20Report%2001142021.pdf

I can back up my story quite easily since it was reported in school and county security reports. I assume you’ll pretend those don’t exist because… you don’t want to accept them?

I was working for PGCPS at the time, a school system that overwhelming decided to keep SROs. (The reports will show that, too. You can ignore those facts as well, if you want to.)

Nothing in those documents showed they stopped anything. It actually shows they let kids in school with weapons,

Alsobrooks has to hedge her bets when she runs for governor or senate.

Alsobrooks didn’t tell 80% of respondents to vote for keeping SROs. Come on.

Since we don’t have metal detectors, weapons WILL come to school. SROs can’t stop that, and it’s ridiculous for you to expect them to. OF COURSE their job is going to be, in part, reactive. Plus, you can’t prove that the relationships formed by SROs haven’t proactively stopped events from occurring. As my post above shows, I personally witnessed multiple accounts… and I’m just one teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BB gun

Was it? That happened at Wood MS a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: Einstein. Kid said he had a gun but none was found.

The principal's email says "a pellet gun was ultimately found, which resembled a real gun in size, shape, and weight."

[Anonymous]

They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Einstein. Kid said he had a gun but none was found.

The principal's email says "a pellet gun was ultimately found, which resembled a real gun in size, shape, and weight."

When I was in high school in Northern Virginia. He used to have an NRA club where kids would bring 22s to school to go target shooting afterwards. Nobody gave it a second thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

What MCPS security?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

You keep repeating this palaver. Please explain your distinction between SROs and "real cops."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They found brass knuckles and a knife. Per moco show

https://mocoshow.com/blog/update-student-charged-with-bringing-brass-knuckles-knife-and-marijuana-to-school/

Folks should worry about the BB gun, too, which looks real. Enough to scare others, and enough to get shot by police or some "good guy with a gun." <<<---- and we have a ton of those now in Maryland after SCOTUS overturned concealed carry requirements.