Working two fulltime jobs 100% remotely. Anyone done/doing this?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Yes they do in some fields. Namely ones that care about billable hours.

Sucks that you went to law school. Talent in the tech sector absolutely getting paid from 2 jobs right now. Rarely are our hours defined and current tech sector philosophies allow for people to be unavailable at random times for "creativity" or whatever. There is technically nothing wrong with working 2 jobs at the same time when both only expect you to put in 40 hours.

I suppose if you're a worker bee, that's fine. But many higher level jobs, particularly "creative" ones, include agreements regarding ownership of materials. If you've executed two of them, you are putting yourself in peril.

Nothing wrong with being a worker bee. I can do 2 working bee jobs and make more than you doing your higher level job.

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I just visited r/overemployed. They’ve got a whole vernacular going on.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Yes they do in some fields. Namely ones that care about billable hours.

Sucks that you went to law school. Talent in the tech sector absolutely getting paid from 2 jobs right now. Rarely are our hours defined and current tech sector philosophies allow for people to be unavailable at random times for "creativity" or whatever. There is technically nothing wrong with working 2 jobs at the same time when both only expect you to put in 40 hours.

I suppose if you're a worker bee, that's fine. But many higher level jobs, particularly "creative" ones, include agreements regarding ownership of materials. If you've executed two of them, you are putting yourself in peril.

Nothing wrong with being a worker bee. I can do 2 working bee jobs and make more than you doing your higher level job.

Oh OK!

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

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Anonymous wrote:This will come out in background investigations.

And nothing will happen. I've worked multiple IT jobs before and when I applied for new jobs, it is not an issue with employers

Do you list them all on your CV?

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Anonymous wrote:When your HR gives you the usual:
"wE GrEw tOo fAsT" and "rEcEsSiOn iS HiTtInG Us hArD" bullcrap.

You be happy to have. j1, j2, j3.

EXACTLY. But we’re supposed to be okay being just relying on one job, and risk losing getting fired because an executive wants a bonus for a new yacht.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you are confusing the word job with the word career.

Lawyer, doctor, c-suites, finance... those are careers where it would be hard to hold multiple jobs at once. Probably many government jobs, too.

No disrespect to anyone who does the below, but the following are jobs... HR, a lot of low level analyst positions, AP/AR, medical billing, admin work, data entry.

Can you have a career as an admin assistant? Sure can. Can you have multiple jobs at the same time as an admin assistant and still perform at both? Sure can.

I'm one of those people who got a pretty useless degree in college. I studied what I liked, not what would help me be employable. When I graduated, I started my job hunt with searches for "entry level" positions. From 22-26 I worked in HR, accounting in both AR & AP, marketing, data entry, receptionist, sales, a buyer, and operations. I tried out a bunch of jobs to see what field I really liked. My job is just that, a job. It's pretty easy overall and I do sometimes work a second job while doing my first. I offer my services as an editor and will do that during my work day when I'm slow.

What a crapy waste of tie way to fine a career -- or lack of career, as the case may be. The world is so messed up, there is no plan or way for people who don't go to graduate school to have a close what they want to do with their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

OP is talking about working all those jobs at the same time, at once, so yeah very illegal.

First of all totally legal for exempt employees. Yes since “at will” could be fired. But concept of “same time” is dated. I had a staff go on a business trip this week. Flying out Monday Night, flying home late Wed night. Are those business hours. My staff member with two young kids who is off line everyday two hours due to kids. She jumps on line at other times. People in different time zones.

Also what time zone? My one job a lot of people in UK start at 3:30am so I am not available as sleeping.

I mean a lot of companies are open 24/7 - 7 days a week. A lot of people do project work and are fully remote. Boomers on here think we are punching time clocks at the factory

Being exempt has nothing to do with whether or not your employer permits moonlighting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Friend does this and I find it highly unethical
It requires a lot of lying when meetings overlap.
If the jobs are more task oriented and it can be done, okay, but deception is a deal breaker for me

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why is it unethical? Are they doing the job well and delivering? That’s all that matters.

Is it unethical for CEOs to sit on board of directors of multiple companies? So why is it unethical for people to work two jobs and are able to do well in both?

It is a part of a CEOs job to make connections across companies and sit on other boards. It increases the company's profile.

So why can’t employees do the same and increase their bank account? Not to mention, increased skills?

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Anonymous wrote:This will come out in background investigations.

Sorry Boomer. They check what you tell them. My resume lists J1 which I never quit. J2 not even on it or my LinkedIn profile and I froze my TWN with Equifax.

When I get J3 I may quit J2 but J1 I quiet quit in Spring 2022 and just doing “rest and vest”. My old RSUs and options vest away.

Tech jobs we get sign one that vest over 48 months. As long as make it past probation and the first year to hit first cliff. You then go to J2. Now you try for double vesting.

Now even my “double trigger” options IPO I be buying my Bentley Suckas

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

OP is talking about working all those jobs at the same time, at once, so yeah very illegal.

First of all totally legal for exempt employees. Yes since “at will” could be fired. But concept of “same time” is dated. I had a staff go on a business trip this week. Flying out Monday Night, flying home late Wed night. Are those business hours. My staff member with two young kids who is off line everyday two hours due to kids. She jumps on line at other times. People in different time zones.

Also what time zone? My one job a lot of people in UK start at 3:30am so I am not available as sleeping.

I mean a lot of companies are open 24/7 - 7 days a week. A lot of people do project work and are fully remote. Boomers on here think we are punching time clocks at the factory

Being exempt has nothing to do with whether or not your employer permits moonlighting.

It’s called Daylighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Meaningful long-term career advancement is what I'd worry about. If you are fine being mid-level and want to maximize current income, it isn't a terrible idea to work 2 jobs if you can do both fairly well.

Except I have two really good jobs. One job is like a FAANG type job as Head of Dept. I interviewed last week for a 400k and a 280k job. If I land one will add the J3. If I get both will add both. There are folks in IT with up to 10 jobs.

Sorry you Gen X and Boomer folks are fat and lazy and think pickle ball and golf is cool

You mean - sorry we're honest and hard workers? Yeah, okay lazy little brat.

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Anonymous wrote:This will come out in background investigations.

Sorry Boomer. They check what you tell them. My resume lists J1 which I never quit. J2 not even on it or my LinkedIn profile and I froze my TWN with Equifax.

When I get J3 I may quit J2 but J1 I quiet quit in Spring 2022 and just doing “rest and vest”. My old RSUs and options vest away.

Tech jobs we get sign one that vest over 48 months. As long as make it past probation and the first year to hit first cliff. You then go to J2. Now you try for double vesting.

Now even my “double trigger” options IPO I be buying my Bentley Suckas

troll, troll, troll and a really bad one at that.

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