I'm done with tipping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

Have you been out in the world recently? Everyone is expecting a damn tip.jist for doing their damn jobs. It is completely out of hand. No one has a problem tipping the waiter,because they don't get paid a minimum wage. It's everyone else who already gets wages and yet is now demanding a damn tip. Enough is enough. People should do their jobs for the wages they're paid and stop with having their hands out for cash from the customer. If they don't like their wages, they can get new jobs or demand their employer pay more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even the *way* we tip actually makes no sense at all. We're not tipping based on the amount of work (or service) provided, but on the cost of service. Your $150 a cut hairdresser is not working hard to do your hair than your $50 a cut hairdresser, but if you go by % you are tipping a lot more. Ditto for servers--it always annoyed me when I was one. If I have a table full of people drinking water and iced tea, and I have to run back and forth a zillion times for refills vs a table of full of same# of people who order one cocktail a piece and never ask for anything else, guess who is more work? Guess whose bill is much higher, and then the corresponding tip? It's stupid.

I agree with this and I usually correct for it and overtip if I’m not drinking or just have an appetizer.

Same (because I actually PREFER water, so that's what I drink). I tip as if that water was a glass of red.

Conversely, it is just as easy to do service for a $40 bottle of wine / 4 ppl as it is to do service for a $200 bottle / 4 ppl. So, on the rare occasions we splurge on the single bottle for the table, Server Susan isn't getting 28% of the $200. Sorry not sorry.

-- waited tables for 8 yrs in college / law school

Great, but did you skip math in law school? High school? Susan has to tip out food runner (even if you don't eat), busser and bartender based on the $200 bottle of wine. Susan just worked for free of possible paid others to work on your table based on the % she needs to tip out. Why didn't you get a $150-$170 wine an leave space for tip. The s_it tastes the same.
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Susan shares a percentage of the TIPS she earns with the food runner, etc, not a percentage of food/drink sales — if her employer is doing it right. The revenue sharing within a business is entirely the decision of the employer and not the IRS

Susan should discuss this with her employer or find a restaurant that apportions tips more intelligently within the business, if Susan dislikes the situation you cite

[Anonymous]

Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!

Fraud and stealing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!

He needs to be fired, that's illegal and immoral. Call the restaurant, talk to the manager, and tell them you are going to report the fraud to your credit card company. This happens more than you think, btw. I used to work in restaurants and saw that quite a bit...and it recently happened to 2 friends.

[Anonymous]

Frankly tired of being forced to do math several times a day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most egregious is babysitters. I’m on a local FB group and apparently babysitters are now charging fees if you ASK them to babysit last minute? I used to always give sitters a few extra dollars, which I never considered a tip, I just rounded up, but now sitters expect tips! And they charge an arm & leg.

They're not charging fees for the question, which isn't a tip by the way. They're charging extra for the inconvenience of changing their plans at the last minute. Do you not expect to pay rush fees when you place a last minute order and want to skip the line or require extra work? Why didn't the people needing the service plan better? I don't know which is stranger, someone calling fees tips or someone not understanding why a sitter would charge a premium in that situation.

This is odd reasoning. I have no issues with greed, playing your cards right or taking advantage of having the upper hand in a situation, capitalism in its purest form. But call it that, not some teenager who must change his or her plans at the last moment... Egad, plans to do what???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!

You should care- it’s not about the money but it’s about fraud. That is not ok AT ALL and it does need to be reported.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!

Is it possible you have really bad handwriting? Often it’s not the waitstaff that manages the charges. When I hosted I would tip everyone out from credit card slips and I had to translate some really rough printing. If something like that happens, it’s really important that you contact the restaurant so they can pull the ticket to check.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

Have you been out in the world recently? Everyone is expecting a damn tip.jist for doing their damn jobs. It is completely out of hand. No one has a problem tipping the waiter,because they don't get paid a minimum wage. It's everyone else who already gets wages and yet is now demanding a damn tip. Enough is enough. People should do their jobs for the wages they're paid and stop with having their hands out for cash from the customer. If they don't like their wages, they can get new jobs or demand their employer pay more.

Just because someone has a tip jar out does it mean you have to put money in there. No one is going to let you on fire or blink twice if you don’t put a buck in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

Have you been out in the world recently? Everyone is expecting a damn tip.jist for doing their damn jobs. It is completely out of hand. No one has a problem tipping the waiter,because they don't get paid a minimum wage. It's everyone else who already gets wages and yet is now demanding a damn tip. Enough is enough. People should do their jobs for the wages they're paid and stop with having their hands out for cash from the customer. If they don't like their wages, they can get new jobs or demand their employer pay more.

Just because someone has a tip jar out does it mean you have to put money in there. No one is going to let you on fire or blink twice if you don’t put a buck in there.

Argh. Typos.

Doesn’t mean

No one is going to light you on fire

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

Have you been out in the world recently? Everyone is expecting a damn tip.jist for doing their damn jobs. It is completely out of hand. No one has a problem tipping the waiter,because they don't get paid a minimum wage. It's everyone else who already gets wages and yet is now demanding a damn tip. Enough is enough. People should do their jobs for the wages they're paid and stop with having their hands out for cash from the customer. If they don't like their wages, they can get new jobs or demand their employer pay more.

Just because someone has a tip jar out does it mean you have to put money in there. No one is going to let you on fire or blink twice if you don’t put a buck in there.

DP. I have no issue ignoring the jar, but the tip question at the end of every single food and beverage-related transaction with an iPad is incredibly annoying and unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’ll probably be looking for a new hairdresser; your old one’s schedule will be mysteriously full.

First stop using the term "hairdresser" and "waiter waitress"....you sound sheltered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’ll probably be looking for a new hairdresser; your old one’s schedule will be mysteriously full.

First stop using the term "hairdresser" and "waiter waitress"....you sound sheltered.

I am using the term OP used. And if you think there are no hairdressers around anymore, you are very mistaken. Not everyone is a “stylist.” There are also definitely waiters and waitresses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not go out less, buy less, but tip well when you do go out. This going often and not tipping or tipping little is against the workers, not the business.
Amazing how the little man gets screwed over and over again. If less people come, but tip more, we are able to keep only the good workers. If business can't handle less spenders, they can close.

Have you been out in the world recently? Everyone is expecting a damn tip.jist for doing their damn jobs. It is completely out of hand. No one has a problem tipping the waiter,because they don't get paid a minimum wage. It's everyone else who already gets wages and yet is now demanding a damn tip. Enough is enough. People should do their jobs for the wages they're paid and stop with having their hands out for cash from the customer. If they don't like their wages, they can get new jobs or demand their employer pay more.

Just because someone has a tip jar out does it mean you have to put money in there. No one is going to let you on fire or blink twice if you don’t put a buck in there.

DP. I have no issue ignoring the jar, but the tip question at the end of every single food and beverage-related transaction with an iPad is incredibly annoying and unnecessary.

It’s the same concept. Really. You don’t have to be so emotionally invested.