Considering moving to DC

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

If IB families sent their kids to IB schools, and nothing else about the schools changed, the amount of students on grade level at many of these schools would skyrocket. Site like this one continue to push families away from doing that bc of the test scores and students on grade level. You see how this is just one big dumb cycle.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

If IB families sent their kids to IB schools, and nothing else about the schools changed, the amount of students on grade level at many of these schools would skyrocket. Site like this one continue to push families away from doing that bc of the test scores and students on grade level. You see how this is just one big dumb cycle.

Not remotely. But I love how in your search for equity you want OOB at W3 schools to have to stay at their lower performing neighborhood schools.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

If IB families sent their kids to IB schools, and nothing else about the schools changed, the amount of students on grade level at many of these schools would skyrocket. Site like this one continue to push families away from doing that bc of the test scores and students on grade level. You see how this is just one big dumb cycle.

Not remotely. But I love how in your search for equity you want OOB at W3 schools to have to stay at their lower performing neighborhood schools.

If 5/100 students are on grade level, and another 50 students from that boundary who are on grade level actually go to their IB instead of OOB, we’re at 33%. That’s pretty significant without changing anything about the staffing or curriculum at the school

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

NP and real question, have you been INSIDE any of these schools? 5% kids at grade level but 60% of kids at a level 3 is not the same as 60% of kids at a level 1. Just saying!

Yes, I have. 60% of the kids at Wells scored a 1 or 2. That's frightening for any high performing kid since DC won't allow tracking so the kid with a 4 is in a class where 6 out of 10 kids are remedial. Deal is 20% 1/2. Basis 13%. Latin 24%. You think a school with a class of 30 with 5 kids 2+ grades below grade level is going to be the same as one with 18? Just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

If IB families sent their kids to IB schools, and nothing else about the schools changed, the amount of students on grade level at many of these schools would skyrocket. Site like this one continue to push families away from doing that bc of the test scores and students on grade level. You see how this is just one big dumb cycle.

Not remotely. But I love how in your search for equity you want OOB at W3 schools to have to stay at their lower performing neighborhood schools.

If 5/100 students are on grade level, and another 50 students from that boundary who are on grade level actually go to their IB instead of OOB, we’re at 33%. That’s pretty significant without changing anything about the staffing or curriculum at the school

I encourage you to try to respond in a polite and kind manner if you would like to continue

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

Are there even any kids above grade level in math at the school? Seriously asking.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

If IB families sent their kids to IB schools, and nothing else about the schools changed, the amount of students on grade level at many of these schools would skyrocket. Site like this one continue to push families away from doing that bc of the test scores and students on grade level. You see how this is just one big dumb cycle.

Not remotely. But I love how in your search for equity you want OOB at W3 schools to have to stay at their lower performing neighborhood schools.

If 5/100 students are on grade level, and another 50 students from that boundary who are on grade level actually go to their IB instead of OOB, we’re at 33%. That’s pretty significant without changing anything about the staffing or curriculum at the school

I encourage you to try to respond in a polite and kind manner if you would like to continue

Query: Why do you think being a condescending jerk makes you more civil than others? Odd lack of self awareness I would suggest.

Your oversimplification of how school choice impacts educational outcomes is funny. Another armchair QB who thinks if only everyone was as smart as them this could all be solved.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

NP, I couldn't find anywhere the parent said her kid was at the top. The parent actually said there was still work to be done. I can tell based on the scores from last year's PARCC, every student doesn't take Algebra so they are separated for that at least (if not more).

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

Are there even any kids above grade level in math at the school? Seriously asking.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

NP and real question, have you been INSIDE any of these schools? 5% kids at grade level but 60% of kids at a level 3 is not the same as 60% of kids at a level 1. Just saying!

Why do you excuse poor performance by even considering level 3? It’s not even at grade level.

Level 3 is just not acceptable, and I don’t care how many kids are there. Having a high performing kid, I’m looking at level 5.

PP above is the typical poster of low standards and expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Your position is like the test score version of “I don’t see color.”

Research has proven that SES correlates very strongly with test scores. In the DMV area, the low SES demographic is primarily black. Therefore, schools with lower test scores are majority black students

You are confused. Follow along here. Whether test scores are low at majority black schools or all white schools, it does not change the fact that schools with almost no kids at grade level will not provide the the same education as schools with all most most kids at grade level. What part of that is hard for you?

I realize that you are desperate to engage in some larger discussion about why low SES have low test scores, but that's not what the discussion was about. Take your shiny object non-sequiter somewhere else.

Please see 20:11 for my response. I can’t imagine there is any world where you think the way you talk to people encourages discussion

Nah, just have no f**** left to give. People like you who want to talk about anything but how things are. Pretending like schools with 5% kids at grade level are fine schools and provide the same quality of education of high performing schools. Desperate to excuse low performance and low standards that are punishing and failing another generation of kids.

Schools with almost no kids at grade level are lousy educational environments that need to be improved. As long as people like you can't agree on that DC schools cannot improve.

NP and real question, have you been INSIDE any of these schools? 5% kids at grade level but 60% of kids at a level 3 is not the same as 60% of kids at a level 1. Just saying!

Why do you excuse poor performance by even considering level 3? It’s not even at grade level.

Level 3 is just not acceptable, and I don’t care how many kids are there. Having a high performing kid, I’m looking at level 5.

PP above is the typical poster of low standards and expectations.

It is not excusing at all. But a 3 and 1 are not the same. Yes, none of those would be high performing and yes PLEASE keep your high performing level 5 kid away from anyone who may have scored a 1, 2 or 3. They are obviously unworthy of being around each other and everyone should give up on them just to give your level 5 high performing kid more time and energy.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

NP, I couldn't find anywhere the parent said her kid was at the top. The parent actually said there was still work to be done. I can tell based on the scores from last year's PARCC, every student doesn't take Algebra so they are separated for that at least (if not more).

She said he is in the accelerated math cohort and taking Algebra. He got a 4 so is in the top 10% of kids in math at the school.

So yes, big difference being at the too when you are just grade level and bottom half at Deal.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so much fun! Whew. I am the poster who posted about her child earlier. Considering that my child took PARCC the same test the students at Deal take, I know how his scores match up. Also, my child is now in Algebra and will be judged the same. His RI test and current reading level, again same test the kids at Deal take. So I know how he matches up with my White friends kids at those schools. Notice that I said NOTHING about his actual grades. I never said that test scores are not important at all. I just said that great test scores don’t make good schools fully.

That may not have been your intent, but it was precisely what you did when you agreed with the post that said exactly that. In fact the summary of the poster with whom you agreed that you replied to was "and most parents with options don’t want their kids to be or to go to school with mostly kids who are multiple grade levels behind." I am the poster who said there's a huge difference between saying test scores don't mean everything and test scores don't mean anything. Seems like you actually agree with that position.

I stand by my position that a school with 5% (or some very small #) of kids at grade level cannot provide the same quality of education as those with the vast majority at grade level. I also stand by my position that low test scores have nothing to do with race.

Why don’t the PP above tell us what school her DC goes to? And what his scores are on PARCC?

Probably because the people on this board are so rude

Nope, she should because if she makes a statement that is factual, she should have no problem backing it up by answering the question above.

Lots of boosters on DCUM for low performing schools saying stuff but then when asked name your school, it’s radio silence.

Wow! I have no problem backing it up honestly AND there are rude posters on this board. Wells is the school He had a 4 on both.

10% of kids a grade level in math. Your kid surrounded by lower performing kids. Kind of exactly what the poster everyone called "rude" suggested.

+1. 4 is grade level and should be the minimum requirement, I would not tout that as good.

Also it’s obvious that the kids taking Algebra at your school are not being taught advance math if only 10% of kids are on grade level.

Lastly, depending on how many questions your kid got right, he would be in the bottom 1/2 at Deal and not anywhere near or close to the top.

NP, I couldn't find anywhere the parent said her kid was at the top. The parent actually said there was still work to be done. I can tell based on the scores from last year's PARCC, every student doesn't take Algebra so they are separated for that at least (if not more).

She said he is in the accelerated math cohort and taking Algebra. He got a 4 so is in the top 10% of kids in math at the school.

So yes, big difference being at the too when you are just grade level and bottom half at Deal.

Typo top not too