Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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Anonymous wrote: Less girls will probably now want to live in states where they are denied their right to an abortion so this trend might reverse.

Fewer, FEWER!

simmer down, Stannis!

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Anonymous wrote:Southern universities have moved on from covid. It’s not surprising that someone who is 18 wants to spend $60k a year on a school where you’re allowed to attend parties, don’t have to take frequent nasal swabs, and aren’t required to take repeated boosters for covid. Not to mention better weather, fun sporting events and prettier women.

All schools have moved on from COVID. The South isn't special, outside of the insidious objectification of women, which is a different kind of special.

Au contraire. Mandates are still going strong at Northeast schools. Hundreds require a booster if the student hasn't had one yet and several even require the new booster for kids who already had the old one. Some families have HAD IT with the total lack of ethics, whether they say so publicly or not.

(Let's see if this post gets censored; it is common for DCUM to remove replies like mine.)

NP.

The Covid booster policies are impacting my kids choices. He (a very competitive athlete) had suspected myocarditis after the second booster (serious enough that he was rushed for an emergency cardiology evaluation). Some of the schools have indicated to us that even with his doctor’s recommendation that he not get another shot he may not be allowed on campus without additional boosters. We are working through this now, and I do not know what will happen in the end, but as of now he may not be able to attend some schools because they may obligate him to get a booster against the medical advice of his own doctor if he enrolls.

+1. Two cardiology evals (not to mention $$$) later, exemption from booster denied. Transferring. Not worth the trouble for my next kid looking at colleges.

Yup. My kid has full medical records of suspected myocarditis, including an ER visit and follow up with multiple cardiologists. Some schools are currently saying that is not sufficient and are requiring the booster. It is honestly appalling. We are not anti-vaxxers and my other kids are fully vaccinated. But I am not going against the advice of two cardiologists, his primary care doctor, and the ER doctor.

I don’t believe you

I think you’re lying

Name the schools

Other PP. Sorry, kid does not want to be doxxed. Within the top 40 in the northeast.

Believe it, don't believe it, your believing is beside the point. This is one possible reason, among others, some people are considering southern universities. (And yes it stinks, to put it politely; college prestige and mandates are highly correlated.)

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Anonymous wrote:How many northern states even have large traditional universities? NJ and NY certainly don’t

What do you mean by traditional? If you mean big football culture, NY has Syracuse.

Buffalo, Binghamton, Albany. I would call these huge traditional schools.
Why does traditional have to equal football?

The article makes multiple references to football being a draw - the games, the tailgating, the sense of community and togetherness of cheering for the team.

You can get that from other sports. Basketball. Hockey.

And from smaller football programs that aren’t so focused on making money.

Nog really. I went to a school with a strong basketball culture and, while I loved it, it isn't the same as attending a football game in a massive packed stadium.

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Anonymous wrote:How many northern states even have large traditional universities? NJ and NY certainly don’t

What do you mean by traditional? If you mean big football culture, NY has Syracuse.

Buffalo, Binghamton, Albany. I would call these huge traditional schools.
Why does traditional have to equal football?

The article makes multiple references to football being a draw - the games, the tailgating, the sense of community and togetherness of cheering for the team.

You can get that from other sports. Basketball. Hockey.

And from smaller football programs that aren’t so focused on making money.

Nog really. I went to a school with a strong basketball culture and, while I loved it, it isn't the same as attending a football game in a massive packed stadium.

Strong agree from this Michigan alum who attended football, basketball, and hockey games during my time in Ann Arbor.

The closest approximation is something like the Taylor Swift tour. And she broke Ticketmaster.

These kids spent a year or more without so much as a packed cafeteria. They know what they’re missing.

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I think some of it isn’t covid itself but just a mindset shift from people as we came out of it. A lot of families did some rethinking during the pandemic as extracurriculars were closed and family dinners and board games returned and people realized that life is short and needs to be enjoyed. The atmosphere at some of these schools - with yes, the football and tailgating and Greek life - have a balance in terms of quality of life plus academics that many students are looking for. Combine it with better weather and perhaps an option for a smaller honors college and it seems a no brainer.

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Here are the reasons kids (especially white boys) are heading to big southern schools:

easier to get admitted/merit aid
good weather
less political correctness/constant talk of privilege
big sports/football scene
fun party/Greek scene

It's not hard to figure this out...makes perfect sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some of it isn’t covid itself but just a mindset shift from people as we came out of it. A lot of families did some rethinking during the pandemic as extracurriculars were closed and family dinners and board games returned and people realized that life is short and needs to be enjoyed. The atmosphere at some of these schools - with yes, the football and tailgating and Greek life - have a balance in terms of quality of life plus academics that many students are looking for. Combine it with better weather and perhaps an option for a smaller honors college and it seems a no brainer.

+1 Absolutely. The ability to be outdoors in pleasant weather for most of the year is even more of a draw post-pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:Are northern Jewish kids going to southern oos publics?

Tons of Jews in North Carolina

I'm sure this is true somewhere, it's a big state, but it's hilarious to me. I lived there my whole life until college and met three.

Yeah pp def isn’t originally from the northeast if she/he thinks there are “tons of Jews” at unc

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Love seeing conservatives beat it with their arguments about the "cultural superiority of the south" lmao

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the reasons kids (especially white boys) are heading to big southern schools:

easier to get admitted/merit aid
good weather
less political correctness/constant talk of privilege
big sports/football scene
fun party/Greek scene

It's not hard to figure this out...makes perfect sense to me.

Is it white gentile boys that are going south more or white gentile girls?

From my circle, it’s the girls that are way more into/open to going south than the boys

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Anonymous wrote:How many northern states even have large traditional universities? NJ and NY certainly don’t

What do you mean by traditional? If you mean big football culture, NY has Syracuse.

Buffalo, Binghamton, Albany. I would call these huge traditional schools.
Why does traditional have to equal football?

The article makes multiple references to football being a draw - the games, the tailgating, the sense of community and togetherness of cheering for the team.

You can get that from other sports. Basketball. Hockey.

And from smaller football programs that aren’t so focused on making money.

Nog really. I went to a school with a strong basketball culture and, while I loved it, it isn't the same as attending a football game in a massive packed stadium.

Sure, it is. I’ve been in larger venues and smaller venues and the excitement comes from being with a packed crowd screaming cheers together. Not if it’s 10k vs 100k.

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It's not that complicated:

Pros:

- The weather is warmer
- Schools are cheaper
- Easier to get in

Cons:

- Academics aren't good (This doesnt matter for jobs but will prevent students from getting into good PhD programs)

YMMV:

- Conservative politics (not a problem for many, would be for others, including me)

Ifyou don't care about academics that much and are fine with conservative politics & hot weather, these schools are a no-brainer.

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And on the academics part, the southern schools really do struggle to hire great faculty. They don't pay at the top of the market and don't prioritize building great research institutions. AThis isn't a problem for most students, because kids just want jobs and are generally insensitive to academic quality, but it's something you should really keep in mind if your kid wants to do a PhD.

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Anonymous wrote:Many kids are being pushed out of their home states - too many applicants willing to prep prep prep… they want a more traditional American experience

+1 Or less stressful/competitive experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Easier to get in. More sports. Hotter kids.

because it's easier. Generally, good looking people rely on their looks a lot more than their brains. Not so good looking people have to rely on their smarts more.