Car bombing in Moscow

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

Why don't you argue using facts instead of calling names? In the immortal words of Junie B, that's not very attractive, madam.

Is Putin putting out "fact" of who committed the bombing? Should we trust Putin more than a polticial commentator?

As far as embezzlement or any other "crimes", look at how many people around Trump were indicted/convicted of crimes, yet Trumpsters and Trump have no issues believing, trusting, and listening to these criminals.

But sure, that's different. LOL

What political commentator?

You aren't making sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

Interesting use of the word "normalize". I would have said, "for the Chechens to be beaten into submission". Except the Chechens are not completely beaten and may open another front against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-faces-second-war-front-as-chechens-threaten-new-offensive-in-russia/ar-AAZMV4i

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

Interesting use of the word "normalize". I would have said, "for the Chechens to be beaten into submission". Except the Chechens are not completely beaten and may open another front against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-faces-second-war-front-as-chechens-threaten-new-offensive-in-russia/ar-AAZMV4i

You don't know or understand the region at all.

Normal Chechens have no wish for independence at all. Mostly because they remember what life was like in the "quasi-independence" days between the 1st and the 2nd campaign under the rule of the thugs of the type your article mentions. They are the reason for the forcible Islamization of the area that never knew the turtle hijab until the Saudis started to pour money in through the "Sheikh Mansur" type morons.

This article is another illustration of what became to journalism. Watch my hands:

1) A nobody somewhere recorded a message passed along to Fox News that cannot be verified in any way.

Conclusion:

2) Putin Faces Second War Front.

He does? How do you figure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

Why don't you argue using facts instead of calling names? In the immortal words of Junie B, that's not very attractive, madam.

Is Putin putting out "fact" of who committed the bombing? Should we trust Putin more than a polticial commentator?

As far as embezzlement or any other "crimes", look at how many people around Trump were indicted/convicted of crimes, yet Trumpsters and Trump have no issues believing, trusting, and listening to these criminals.

But sure, that's different. LOL

What political commentator?

You aren't making sense.

Read the article.

I wouldn't put it pass Putin to have set Ponomarev up for embezzlement. Putin has no problems murdering or jailing his opponents.

Ponomarev voted against invading Crimea. I'm sure he was on Putin's hitlist. No wonder he ran to Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

Why don't you argue using facts instead of calling names? In the immortal words of Junie B, that's not very attractive, madam.

Is Putin putting out "fact" of who committed the bombing? Should we trust Putin more than a polticial commentator?

As far as embezzlement or any other "crimes", look at how many people around Trump were indicted/convicted of crimes, yet Trumpsters and Trump have no issues believing, trusting, and listening to these criminals.

But sure, that's different. LOL

What political commentator?

You aren't making sense.

Read the article.

I wouldn't put it pass Putin to have set Ponomarev up for embezzlement. Putin has no problems murdering or jailing his opponents.

Ponomarev voted against invading Crimea. I'm sure he was on Putin's hitlist. No wonder he ran to Ukraine.

LOL or he could have just embezzled the money. Navalny's HQ said he did so surely they know better than you? You know what else he voted for? The internet censorship law that says don't say gay. Not out of love but out of filial piety because Mr Ponomarev Sr is tied to the censorship lobby via company board positions and proximity to Rostelecom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

Interesting use of the word "normalize". I would have said, "for the Chechens to be beaten into submission". Except the Chechens are not completely beaten and may open another front against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-faces-second-war-front-as-chechens-threaten-new-offensive-in-russia/ar-AAZMV4i

You don't know or understand the region at all.

Normal Chechens have no wish for independence at all. Mostly because they remember what life was like in the "quasi-independence" days between the 1st and the 2nd campaign under the rule of the thugs of the type your article mentions. They are the reason for the forcible Islamization of the area that never knew the turtle hijab until the Saudis started to pour money in through the "Sheikh Mansur" type morons.

This article is another illustration of what became to journalism. Watch my hands:

1) A nobody somewhere recorded a message passed along to Fox News that cannot be verified in any way.

Conclusion:

2) Putin Faces Second War Front.

He does? How do you figure?

Normal Chechens love the brutal rule of Kadryov! Particularly when they are conscripted to fight in Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

Interesting use of the word "normalize". I would have said, "for the Chechens to be beaten into submission". Except the Chechens are not completely beaten and may open another front against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-faces-second-war-front-as-chechens-threaten-new-offensive-in-russia/ar-AAZMV4i

You don't know or understand the region at all.

Normal Chechens have no wish for independence at all. Mostly because they remember what life was like in the "quasi-independence" days between the 1st and the 2nd campaign under the rule of the thugs of the type your article mentions. They are the reason for the forcible Islamization of the area that never knew the turtle hijab until the Saudis started to pour money in through the "Sheikh Mansur" type morons.

This article is another illustration of what became to journalism. Watch my hands:

1) A nobody somewhere recorded a message passed along to Fox News that cannot be verified in any way.

Conclusion:

2) Putin Faces Second War Front.

He does? How do you figure?

Normal Chechens love the brutal rule of Kadryov! Particularly when they are conscripted to fight in Ukraine.

* Kadyrov

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

Interesting use of the word "normalize". I would have said, "for the Chechens to be beaten into submission". Except the Chechens are not completely beaten and may open another front against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-faces-second-war-front-as-chechens-threaten-new-offensive-in-russia/ar-AAZMV4i

You don't know or understand the region at all.

Normal Chechens have no wish for independence at all. Mostly because they remember what life was like in the "quasi-independence" days between the 1st and the 2nd campaign under the rule of the thugs of the type your article mentions. They are the reason for the forcible Islamization of the area that never knew the turtle hijab until the Saudis started to pour money in through the "Sheikh Mansur" type morons.

This article is another illustration of what became to journalism. Watch my hands:

1) A nobody somewhere recorded a message passed along to Fox News that cannot be verified in any way.

Conclusion:

2) Putin Faces Second War Front.

He does? How do you figure?

Normal Chechens love the brutal rule of Kadryov! Particularly when they are conscripted to fight in Ukraine.

* Kadyrov

LOL right, the gazzavatis dreaming of replacing will, I'm sure, rule by velvet glove with every freedom guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Russians love to self-embellish Soviet rule of the ethnic minorities, but it's all a facade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

My guess is the Tartars (second most populous ethnic group inside Russia, and over twice the size of Ukrainians), will be next to test the waters. This article explains the issue fairly well. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/ukraine-war-crimean-tatars-stalin-soviet-union/629824/

Remember that just as the Ukrainians have a historical grudge against Red Russians (think Stalin and Catherine the Great, Dr Zhivago gulags, etc), so do other ethnic groups. This is how Red Russia maintained power over ethnic groups around WWI - by whittling them down.

In the case of Ukrainians, by about 3.5 to 5 million https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor. Ironically, this Russian "reduction" of ethnic Ukrainians by Stalin is the main reason why Russia can even attempt to claim the Crimea in the first place. Had they not shipped off the ethnic populations, the overall ethnic landscape would be much different in modern-day Russia.

[Anonymous]

Stalin was a Georgian, dear. Blame them, lol.

[Anonymous]

People deported from crimea were tatars not Ukrainians, dummy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russians love to self-embellish Soviet rule of the ethnic minorities, but it's all a facade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

My guess is the Tartars (second most populous ethnic group inside Russia, and over twice the size of Ukrainians), will be next to test the waters. This article explains the issue fairly well. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/ukraine-war-crimean-tatars-stalin-soviet-union/629824/

Remember that just as the Ukrainians have a historical grudge against Red Russians (think Stalin and Catherine the Great, Dr Zhivago gulags, etc), so do other ethnic groups. This is how Red Russia maintained power over ethnic groups around WWI - by whittling them down.

In the case of Ukrainians, by about 3.5 to 5 million https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor. Ironically, this Russian "reduction" of ethnic Ukrainians by Stalin is the main reason why Russia can even attempt to claim the Crimea in the first place. Had they not shipped off the ethnic populations, the overall ethnic landscape would be much different in modern-day Russia.

Nevermind the Holomodor.

[Anonymous]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

The link was broken. Remove the period and it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

The link was broken. Remove the period and it works.

Are you going to admit the booboo you made when you claimed people deported from Crimea were "ethnic Ukrainians"?

Out of the kindness of my heart, here's who was deported from Crimea and when:

- August 1941: Germans who have settled in Russia generations ago

- February 1942: Italians

- May 1944: Crimean Tatars

- June 1944: Armenians, Greeks and Bulgarians

Don't listen to CNN or read The Atlantic, study history.

Look who's conspicuously absent, the Ukrainians!

[Anonymous]

And here are two renderings of 1917 October Revolution maps that clearly show that what is modern-day Crimea was pretty much center-of-mass for Ukraine before Stalin wiped out about 2/3rds'ish of the population.

http://kontur-map.ru/1584797_BIG_1_0.jpg

http://ispu.ru/files/u2/book/history/11tema11/kart11/oktabrsk_revoluzia2_files/image001.jpg

Pretty sure ordinary Russians wouldn't know this history, so I hope this info makes its way into anti-propaganda campaigns the next time the news reports Russia is "saving Russians" in the Crimea.