Car bombing in Moscow

[Anonymous]

Although we don’t know who was behind this, it’s convenient to blame it on Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is precisely why I support just enough support in Ukraine but not too much.

Dragging out the Ukraine operation will cause chaos inside Russia.

More of these will happen. But we can’t give Ukraine too many weapons and they win quickly.

Drag this out for a decade.

Hope you are not one of those people with a Ukraine flag on your car or twitter.

You are not a true supporter.

Im not.

Those people are cringe.

Managed chaos in the Slavic world is the ideal tool to deal with this region of the world.

Agree 100%

Keep Russia mired in it as long as possible, just like in Afghanistan in the 80’s. The more they’re preoccupied with one mess, the less likely they are to start other messes.

Be sure to let Ukrainians know their only utility to the US is to keep Russia occupied. It’s ok if lots of them die in the process, lord knows Afghanistan was left in a much sorrier state.

Nah. I think the Ukrainians are what the Russians want to be - dedicated, loyal, and fighting for a cause. I think it's more likely that even if Russia "wins", Ukrainian's with a grudge will make the next 20 years hell for Russians. I see it more like a Northern Ireland scenario.

[Anonymous]

Russian government says that the bomb was planted by a female Ukrainian nationalist who was there with her 10 y.o. daughter. This is nonsense but I know what purpose that story serves for Russian propaganda: to explain the necessity of killing women and children in Ukraine because you see, they are terrorists too!

[Anonymous]

Russia is aggressively blaming Ukraine. Even saying that she was the intended target, not her father.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia is aggressively blaming Ukraine. Even saying that she was the intended target, not her father.

They always lie. When Ukrainians truly do something (blow up their warship or airport in Crimea), they say it’s a result of their own negligence. When Ukrainians have nothing to do with something, they say it’s on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russian government says that the bomb was planted by a female Ukrainian nationalist who was there with her 10 y.o. daughter. This is nonsense but I know what purpose that story serves for Russian propaganda: to explain the necessity of killing women and children in Ukraine because you see, they are terrorists too!

It works for the Israelis so why not Russians? Tried and true. Or Saddam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is precisely why I support just enough support in Ukraine but not too much.

Dragging out the Ukraine operation will cause chaos inside Russia.

More of these will happen. But we can’t give Ukraine too many weapons and they win quickly.

Drag this out for a decade.

Hope you are not one of those people with a Ukraine flag on your car or twitter.

You are not a true supporter.

Im not.

Those people are cringe.

Managed chaos in the Slavic world is the ideal tool to deal with this region of the world.

Agree 100%

Keep Russia mired in it as long as possible, just like in Afghanistan in the 80’s. The more they’re preoccupied with one mess, the less likely they are to start other messes.

Be sure to let Ukrainians know their only utility to the US is to keep Russia occupied. It’s ok if lots of them die in the process, lord knows Afghanistan was left in a much sorrier state.

Nah. I think the Ukrainians are what the Russians want to be - dedicated, loyal, and fighting for a cause. I think it's more likely that even if Russia "wins", Ukrainian's with a grudge will make the next 20 years hell for Russians. I see it more like a Northern Ireland scenario.

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is precisely why I support just enough support in Ukraine but not too much.

Dragging out the Ukraine operation will cause chaos inside Russia.

More of these will happen. But we can’t give Ukraine too many weapons and they win quickly.

Drag this out for a decade.

Hope you are not one of those people with a Ukraine flag on your car or twitter.

You are not a true supporter.

Im not.

Those people are cringe.

Managed chaos in the Slavic world is the ideal tool to deal with this region of the world.

Agree 100%

Keep Russia mired in it as long as possible, just like in Afghanistan in the 80’s. The more they’re preoccupied with one mess, the less likely they are to start other messes.

Be sure to let Ukrainians know their only utility to the US is to keep Russia occupied. It’s ok if lots of them die in the process, lord knows Afghanistan was left in a much sorrier state.

Nah. I think the Ukrainians are what the Russians want to be - dedicated, loyal, and fighting for a cause. I think it's more likely that even if Russia "wins", Ukrainian's with a grudge will make the next 20 years hell for Russians. I see it more like a Northern Ireland scenario.

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

That's the Russian line for why the Ukraine belongs with Russia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

Ponomarev is a clown. Dugin is not an architect of anything. He is a marginally important commentator on an obscure right wing orthodox Christian channel. Nobody I know watches that stuff. Dugin has never advised Putin or been close to him.

and who are you that you are such an expert in this area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

Just a coffeeboy!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is precisely why I support just enough support in Ukraine but not too much.

Dragging out the Ukraine operation will cause chaos inside Russia.

More of these will happen. But we can’t give Ukraine too many weapons and they win quickly.

Drag this out for a decade.

Hope you are not one of those people with a Ukraine flag on your car or twitter.

You are not a true supporter.

Im not.

Those people are cringe.

Managed chaos in the Slavic world is the ideal tool to deal with this region of the world.

Agree 100%

Keep Russia mired in it as long as possible, just like in Afghanistan in the 80’s. The more they’re preoccupied with one mess, the less likely they are to start other messes.

Be sure to let Ukrainians know their only utility to the US is to keep Russia occupied. It’s ok if lots of them die in the process, lord knows Afghanistan was left in a much sorrier state.

Nah. I think the Ukrainians are what the Russians want to be - dedicated, loyal, and fighting for a cause. I think it's more likely that even if Russia "wins", Ukrainian's with a grudge will make the next 20 years hell for Russians. I see it more like a Northern Ireland scenario.

Any nation is dedicated and loyal when fighting the invaders on their own land. That's what the Soviets were when the Nazis invaded. It's hard to be dedicated and loyal fighting on someone else's land for god knows what. There are very few cultural differences between Russians and Ukrainians and most people, including their own, cannot tell them apart.

Remember Chechnya had a grudge too and suffered way beyond what Ukraine suffered, yet it did not take 20 years for it to normalize. And Chechens are nothing like Russians!

That's the Russian line for why the Ukraine belongs with Russia.

You can acknowledge what's true without drawing any sort of conclusions from it. Ethnic groups can be alike, or not alike, and live together in one state, or separately. One has nothing to do with the other.

Chechens are utterly unlike Russians in every single sense - ethnic origins, language, customs, religion, culture. Yet Russia fought to prevent secession, and they remain a part of the federated state - like Dagestan, Bashkiria, or any one of a myriad ethnic communities within Russia. Distinctness doesn't mean you must live apart. Similarity doesn't mean you must live together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

Why don't you argue using facts instead of calling names? In the immortal words of Junie B, that's not very attractive, madam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The coverage of Dugina’s death illustrates the demise of serious journalism. So many talking parrots repeating nonsense cliches.

Dugin was not Putin’s advisor. He is not a mastermind of anything. He has never met Putin or been inside the Kremlin walls. He is a third rate, marginal commentator who has no importance whatsoever on the political landscape of modern Russia. Ugh so stupid.

And how do you know this?

Some Russians who hate Putin are claiming responsibility for the bombing.

Somewhat ironic that they are named NRA.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-russias-anti-putin-national-republican-army-darya-dugina-1735541

Former Russian state deputy Ilya Ponomarev, in an appearance on his Russian-language opposition TV channel "Utro Fevralya" in Kyiv, alleged that Dugina, 30, was killed by Russian partisans from the NRA. He said both Dugin and his daughter were targets.

Dugina was the daughter of Russian political commentator Alexander Dugin, who has been credited with being a key architect of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

We had conservative commentators have the ear of our illustrous leader Trump, and they helped him make policy. In normal times, I might think a political commentator having such a huge influence on a country's leader is stuff of tv, but since Trump, what is "normal" has gone out the window.

LOL Ponomarev who fled Russia after charges were filed against him for embezzling thousands of dollars in Skolkovo and found refuge in Ukraine thereafter? That's your source here?

Sure. Whatever.

LOL you Trumpsters had no problem believing qanon consipracies. But that's the argument you want to use. LOL. Sure. Whatever.

Why don't you argue using facts instead of calling names? In the immortal words of Junie B, that's not very attractive, madam.

Is Putin putting out "fact" of who committed the bombing? Should we trust Putin more than a polticial commentator?

As far as embezzlement or any other "crimes", look at how many people around Trump were indicted/convicted of crimes, yet Trumpsters and Trump have no issues believing, trusting, and listening to these criminals.

But sure, that's different. LOL