College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Yes, there it is, that delicious angst! It's like you wallowed in your misery all night and rose to the day bitter and looking to denigrate any and all not in your miserable echo chamber. Hopefully it didn't ruin your $6.00 cup of Starbucks but looking forward to poking your miserable arse all day for pure amusement! Thanks in advance.

More ad hominem attacks. Impotent words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

100%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Yes, there it is, that delicious angst! It's like you wallowed in your misery all night and rose to the day bitter and looking to denigrate any and all not in your miserable echo chamber. Hopefully it didn't ruin your $6.00 cup of Starbucks but looking forward to poking your miserable arse all day for pure amusement! Thanks in advance.

More ad hominem attacks. Impotent words.

Pearls of wisdom from unhinged bigots are impotent. You obviously have some frontal lobe issues but do go on....

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Anonymous wrote:Summary: Old, white guys with money forms groups to get colleges to go back to giving their “born on third” kids a place to mess around for four years before their use their connections to get executive jobs.

If you believe the name they give their group, you’re not paying attention. You think their work might help your middle class white kid, but they are as much against your kid getting a leg up as they are against minority groups. They want power and opportunity for their wealthy, white kids and no others.

Oh, BS. Many of those most involved in these organizations are immigrants and college graduates who grew up decidedly middle class.

It's about the divide between those who believe that free speech should be paramount, even if that allows people with a bigger soapbox to argue against equity, and those who believe that equity should be paramount, even if that entails the censorship or de-platforming of opposing views.

The W&L example says the people want to preserve General Lee’s legacy.

They’re hoping people assume they’re coming from a good place with the whole free speech thing, but they basically seem upset that people like Lee and Jefferson are seen with more real glasses today than with the rose-colored ones we had when we were kids.

Don’t be fooled. They aren’t about free speech. That’s their cover.

Fair point about W&L but U of C professor Dorian Abbot being disinvited from giving a scientific lecture at MIT because he publicly opposes DEI initiatives is appalling.

It’s not, actually. Research and science in general suffer enormously from the bias in science. Universities and labs are increasingly realize that science is stunted by the old boys club.

Please explain how Mr. Abbot's research in planetary science been affected by bias.

Does his research require him to publicly oppose DEI initiatives?

Try harder. Let me help you: how is the study of microscopic matter "biased" ? Explain how bias creeps into analysis of dust. And so on.

There is some great imagery there.

White men clinging to the idea that only white men are capable or worthy of studying dust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Yes, there it is, that delicious angst! It's like you wallowed in your misery all night and rose to the day bitter and looking to denigrate any and all not in your miserable echo chamber. Hopefully it didn't ruin your $6.00 cup of Starbucks but looking forward to poking your miserable arse all day for pure amusement! Thanks in advance.

More ad hominem attacks. Impotent words.

Pearls of wisdom from unhinged bigots are impotent. You obviously have some frontal lobe issues but do go on....

Yes - that was exactly my point about Ellis' blathering commentary. Youngkin and Ellis want to trash UVA - and all public schools/universities in VA - with their bigoted agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

100%

Ya fools didn't even read the evaluations. LOL.

DEI was a minor addition.

Next up in the old, white man list of gripes? Anything about your lawn?

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Anonymous wrote:These groups are not actually in favor of free speech. They just don’t want anyone learning anything accurate about the history of slavery. It’s Orwellian for them to describe themselves as in favor of free speech when their only goal is to subvert free speech.

Straight up gaslighting 101.

It’s true. These cancel culture groups are trying to get courses that teach about the history of racism and slavery actually cancelled. That’s straight up Orwellian. You cannot advocate that you support free speech and try to get courses cancelled at the same time without people noticing you are basically just a fascist group trying to shut dissent.

Hint: people who truly support free speech on campus don’t spend all their time trying to suppress it.

Happens on both sides, but you know that already.

Only one side is starting cancel culture groups while simultaneously trying to cancel courses so no, it’s not both sides.

DP. Talk about disingenuous. Liberal groups refuse to even allow conservative speakers to speak, and you’re calling yourselves the “party of free speech”? What a joke. A really terrible joke.

Just keep making stuff up as conservatives burn books.

Your angst and bitterness is delicious and amusing! Keep seething, I'm here for it.

Seriously. And what about the PPP’s post was “made up”? It’s completely true. So telling that the PP is embarrassed to admit that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Facts: you made no points and don’t seem to know what “ad hominem” means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Facts: you made no points and don’t seem to know what “ad hominem” means.

Are you just a troll or what? Why did you make two indisputably incorrect statements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

100%

Except it isn't true. There's just an addendum of DEI and a couple of questions (out of a lot). Do you honestly think a professor shouldn't be held accountable for teaching their students in an equitable way? For representing diverse perspectives? There are also questions on their organization, their knowledge of the subject matter, their communication skills, their timeliness in grading, the reasonableness of the workload, their respect for students etc.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with this:

Bacon’s bottom line: Banning discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or race is a worthy goal. Taking extra pains to reach out to underrepresented groups for recruitment is a worthy goal (as long as standards are upheld). Making all students, of whatever background, feel welcome and comfortable is a worthy goal.

However, giving 20% weight to a professor’s personal commitment to DEI amounts to an ideological litmus test that only left-leaning professors or spineless sycophants can pass. These guidelines will drive away professors and job seekers who don’t enthusiastically embrace social-justice orthodoxy. Diversity statements are a recipe for intellectual stultification and mediocrity, and they have no place in a free society.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/enforcing-the-new-diversity-dogma/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These groups are not actually in favor of free speech. They just don’t want anyone learning anything accurate about the history of slavery. It’s Orwellian for them to describe themselves as in favor of free speech when their only goal is to subvert free speech.

Straight up gaslighting 101.

It’s true. These cancel culture groups are trying to get courses that teach about the history of racism and slavery actually cancelled. That’s straight up Orwellian. You cannot advocate that you support free speech and try to get courses cancelled at the same time without people noticing you are basically just a fascist group trying to shut dissent.

Hint: people who truly support free speech on campus don’t spend all their time trying to suppress it.

Happens on both sides, but you know that already.

Only one side is starting cancel culture groups while simultaneously trying to cancel courses so no, it’s not both sides.

DP. Talk about disingenuous. Liberal groups refuse to even allow conservative speakers to speak, and you’re calling yourselves the “party of free speech”? What a joke. A really terrible joke.

You can “speak” and spew your idiocy all you like. No one whatsoever owes you a platform or a microphone. Next!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/

I’m so glad you posted this - if this is what you think of as “trashing,” there is really nothing to discuss. Everything he says is common sense, especially this:

“I just found copies of the 2021-2022 Peer Evaluation Forms and Process for University of Virginia professors. I have attached copies here and here. Please note the prominence of DEI issues within the evaluations. There is even a special appendix on DEI examples to use in the evaluation. It is readily apparent that no professor can possibly get a good evaluation and obtain tenure or even a raise in salary if he/she does not pledge total allegiance to DEI and can itemize a large number of DEI initiatives on his/her part. This should not have anything to do with teaching math, science, business or other social science courses. Every Dean or Department Head now has a DEI officer who has co-oversight on the peer review process.”

He is absolutely correct. I hope this DEI nonsense which has infected all aspects of college (and corporate) life is reined in. That you seem to want to see everything through the DEI lens only identifies exactly who you are.

Lies. DEI is one bullet point under a whole list of criteria for each section.

Sounds like the old, white professors are worried that they might need to enter the 21st century.

And there are tons of TRASH ideas:
>Spouting idiotic campaign propaganda about Youngkin "not brainwashing them with the Woke/CRT/DEI mantras".
>Pushing to replace the Board with MAGA losers to "reverse the path to Wokeness".
>Denigrating courses in race/gender as "courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University" - WTAF?

I'm appalled that this MAGA loser is on the board of UVA.

Speaking of losers... you seem to have issues. Deep issues. You've spammed this thread over and over with your unhinged rants... move along. Find a hobby.
DP

Sad. Can’t address any of the points I made so you resort to ad hominem attacks.

Fact: Ellis and Youngkin plan to trash UVA with their bigoted agenda.

Yes, there it is, that delicious angst! It's like you wallowed in your misery all night and rose to the day bitter and looking to denigrate any and all not in your miserable echo chamber. Hopefully it didn't ruin your $6.00 cup of Starbucks but looking forward to poking your miserable arse all day for pure amusement! Thanks in advance.

Oh, sweetie, just stop. No libs we’re owned. We are laughing at you.

[Anonymous]

That's not really "academic freedom" though. Maybe he should leave his politics out of the workplace.

And maybe student to keep her sign out of the world heritage site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with this:

Bacon’s bottom line: Banning discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or race is a worthy goal. Taking extra pains to reach out to underrepresented groups for recruitment is a worthy goal (as long as standards are upheld). Making all students, of whatever background, feel welcome and comfortable is a worthy goal.

However, giving 20% weight to a professor’s personal commitment to DEI amounts to an ideological litmus test that only left-leaning professors or spineless sycophants can pass. These guidelines will drive away professors and job seekers who don’t enthusiastically embrace social-justice orthodoxy. Diversity statements are a recipe for intellectual stultification and mediocrity[b], and they have no place in a free society.

https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/enforcing-the-new-diversity-dogma/

On the contrary. Any professors who are driven away by allocating a fraction of their effort to DEI were probably too closed-minded and ineffectual anyway. By encouraging alternate perspectives we will end up stronger.