Need to lose weight for good

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Anonymous wrote:Read up on semaglutides such as Wegovy & Ozempic. They have made a real difference.

I have but my insurance won’t cover them and they are stupid expensive out of pocket.

Get a diabetes diagnosis or get them from Canada

I don’t have diabetes, so no luck there. How do you get them from Canada?

Get a paper prescription for a 4 mg pen, buy from Mark’s marine pharmacy or buycanadianinsulin.com. Will be around $300 with shipping.

You have to step with doses. Getting a 4mg pen will get you 8 weeks worth to start:
4 weeks at 0.25mg = 1mg
2 weeks at 0.5mg = 1mg
2 weeks at 1.0 mg = 2mg

After that you can stay at 1.0mg for a while and then step up to 2mg if you plateau.

No reputable doctor will let you do this.

They won't let you increase dosage without closely monitoring and other is a reason for that.

My BP plummeted after going up to 1 mg. I now also have to test by blood sugar because they suspect that also might be falling too low.

Please go to a reputable doctor, OP. This medication is not a joke. It's serious. If your doctor doesn't put you on it, explore other options because in their medical opinion you are not a good candidate for it.

I have how DCUM is prescribing it like it's end all, be all to for weight loss.

Why wouldn’t a reputable doctor let you do this? This is the recommended titration schedule by the manufacturer, except for I think you’re supposed to stay at 0.5 for a month.

Plus the highest dose of Wegovy is 2.4mg weekly. During the study for Wegovy, my dosage was upped every 4 weeks after 2 months of .5mg until I hit the 2.4mg dose.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

The thing that is actually the same on all these threads is people who have never been obese and know nothing about obesity spouting off. That’s the guarantee.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

Well it turns out protein bars and impossible burgers aren’t the same thing as chips, too much processed pasta, and other things that are making most Americans fat. Also weird flex. I’m not female so if your body fat is around 11 that would be very unhealthy. I also wouldn’t try to flex on random internet people but you likely can’t out perform me in any of those.

Also, I’ve been obese, you haven’t. So given that common refrain, what exact observations or advice would you have that would be relevant anyhow?

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

Impossible burgers have not been around for 30 years. More like 5 yrs.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

Impossible burgers have not been around for 30 years. More like 5 yrs.

Yes, no other veggie burgers existed before that. You caught me!

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

Well it turns out protein bars and impossible burgers aren’t the same thing as chips, too much processed pasta, and other things that are making most Americans fat. Also weird flex. I’m not female so if your body fat is around 11 that would be very unhealthy. I also wouldn’t try to flex on random internet people but you likely can’t out perform me in any of those.

Also, I’ve been obese, you haven’t. So given that common refrain, what exact observations or advice would you have that would be relevant anyhow?

Wow, you’re also a middle aged guy with a total for the big 3 lifts over 1200, a 5K close to 19:00, and the ability to regularly do several mile open water swims? I’m surprised, considering I don’t meet a lot of guys my age like me, but good for you. We are both statistically pretty rare. The point was not a “flex” but rather to point out that eating highly processed foods is not a “recipe for failure” as you claim. The question is how many calories you consume, how many you burn, and how well you meet your micro and macro nutrient needs. Period. You don’t magically get extra points for less processed food.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

I agree that minimally processed food is better, but you can literally lose weight on a diet of twinkies and protein powder if you consume fewer calories than you burn.

Less processed foods make this easier because you can eat higher volumes, but it’s not a requirement.

And anything other than eating real food is a recipe for long term failure. All these threads are the same. If people would stop eating shelf stable garbage and stuff in boxes they wouldn’t have had an obesity problem in the first place

Lots of people like me who are very lean and muscular eat lots of highly processed food. I live on impossible burgers and protein bars and I’ve been eating this way for 30 years. Glad you found something that works for you, but you should tone down the self righteous preachy tone. I’m certain I have lower body fat than you, can run faster, swim further, and lift heavier. And, again, I’ve been eating this way for 30 years.

Impossible burgers have not been around for 30 years. More like 5 yrs.

Yes, no other veggie burgers existed before that. You caught me!

DP - which veggie burgers with similar macros as Impossible burgers have been around that long?

Also, come on. Of course you’re bragging. And that’s fine, you’re clearly very fit, but please don’t pretend otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

Tell me you've never been obese without telling me you've never been obese. I eat like this now 95% of the time, barely eat over 1500 calories. I'm 150 lbs overweight. It's not that easy for everyone.

How did you become obese in the first place?

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Op here… I love that I posted a positive update and it revives the thread to spur arguing. Never change dcum

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

Tell me you've never been obese without telling me you've never been obese. I eat like this now 95% of the time, barely eat over 1500 calories. I'm 150 lbs overweight. It's not that easy for everyone.

How did you become obese in the first place?

Age, primarily sedentary desk jobs, screwed up hormones, hypothyroidism that doesn’t respond much to medicine, having children, most lately perimenopause is doing a real number.

I know it’s apparently just so hard to believe that not every fat person is an overeating, lazy slob. I eat healthily, in a calorie deficit the vast majority of the time. Drink 80-100 oz of water a day. I used to exercise a ton, but it made no real difference in losing weight, so now I just try to walk when I have time.

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Don't do surgery. My friend did when she hit 40. She's 46 now and for the past three years has been struggling with malabsorbtion issued that are resulting in serious complications. She knew about the risk of malabsorbtion but she didn't realize how serious it could be. Even though she's on a cocktail of regular infusions and supplements it's still a big problem. Yes she lost 100lbs and gained back 30. But if she had to do it over she would have skipped surg. She feels that Dr's downplay risks and there arent enough longterm studies. She's very concerned about her future health at 65, 75 etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't do surgery. My friend did when she hit 40. She's 46 now and for the past three years has been struggling with malabsorbtion issued that are resulting in serious complications. She knew about the risk of malabsorbtion but she didn't realize how serious it could be. Even though she's on a cocktail of regular infusions and supplements it's still a big problem. Yes she lost 100lbs and gained back 30. But if she had to do it over she would have skipped surg. She feels that Dr's downplay risks and there arent enough longterm studies. She's very concerned about her future health at 65, 75 etc.

There’s no risk of malabsorption with gastric sleeve/vertical sleeve gastrectomy. Your friend must have had gastric bypass/roux en y. Don’t fear monger when you don’t know what you’re talking about please.

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Anonymous wrote:Change your thought process so you only ever think of the word diet as a noun meaning "the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats." Never think of it as a verb or as a noun meaning "a special course of food to which one restricts oneself, either to lose weight or for medical reasons."

You cannot go "on" a diet and succeed long term. You can change your diet to healthy food that will fuel your body and provide sustenance.

Eat real, minimally processed food, ideally fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts, and grains. That immediately eliminates almost all of the foods that lead to being obesity.

Tell me you've never been obese without telling me you've never been obese. I eat like this now 95% of the time, barely eat over 1500 calories. I'm 150 lbs overweight. It's not that easy for everyone.

How did you become obese in the first place?

Age, primarily sedentary desk jobs, screwed up hormones, hypothyroidism that doesn’t respond much to medicine, having children, most lately perimenopause is doing a real number.

I know it’s apparently just so hard to believe that not every fat person is an overeating, lazy slob. I eat healthily, in a calorie deficit the vast majority of the time. Drink 80-100 oz of water a day. I used to exercise a ton, but it made no real difference in losing weight, so now I just try to walk when I have time.

Maybe now you do. But but it is impossible to get obese if when you weren’t obese, and started gaining 10 lbs, you cut back what you were eating. I don’t believe you ate a heathy 1500 calorie diet all your adult life and ended up obese.