WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet

[Anonymous]

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I mean the whole thing is so obvious. The city is half haves and half have nots. The have nots have strong voting power and can ensure weak on crime bills and vote for weak on crime candidates.

This is racist dog-whistle bullsh*t. Talking points straight from Fox News.

I've lived in DC for over 30 years. I've lived in the rich part of town and I've lived in the poor part of town. Guess what? The people in poorer parts of town actually care more about crime than the people in the richer parts do. Because crime affects them more, and they don't have the resources to insulate themselves from it. But they also have a lot more interaction with law enforcement and see with their own eyes that a lot of it isn't effective at fighting crime and is even counterproductive. So no, more of the same isn't appealing. But it's not because people are rooting for the criminals.

So how do you feel when Ward 1 councilwoman literally tells people to “insulate” their homes if they don’t like the illegal ATVs and presumably shootings?
I ageee with everything you said but there must be effective response to the current situation like the driver getting shot at 2 days ago in the middle of a busy street and day from an ATV. Not a peep from the people you describe. That’s why I want change, not because of some perceived ideological divide. And certainly not out of racism

OK, but what is "an effective response"? "Round up the usual suspects"? Declare martial law in the majority-minority parts of the city? Because it's already illegal to shoot people. People who have been around have seen those knee-jerk responses and know that a) they don't actually affect the crime rate and b) they make life a lot worse for a lot of people who aren't in fact criminals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Yeah well, the number one issue on the minds of DC residents is murder and violent crime. What’s Frumin going to do about that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this criticism of the Post's editorial board is designed to deflect from the substance of the original post, i.e., that the far left political interests in DC are highly coordinated. And as far as "outsiders" pulling the strings---the far left in DC receives a great deal of support from national progressive groups because the city (like SF) is seen as a potential testing grounds for a lot of far left ideas (such as not prosecuting crime). Of course, all of us actual District residents are getting to experience how THAT idea is working out . . . .

If this is about the Frumin race, trying to paint Mary Cheh and Tricia Duncan as far left is... interesting. They might not be as to the right as Goulet, but Cheh has always been a more moderate member of the council, and Duncan would have continued her policies. This race is not about ideology (Bergmann and Duncan disagreed on a lot) but instead about preventing our elections from being bought by massive amounts of out-of-state money supported by organizations like WaPo, which are run by residents of MD and VA.

You are welcome to read the editorial for yourself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/15/washington-dc-democratic-primary-endorsements/

Not PP, but I cannot because I am not subscribed to the post! Really cool to have an organization that has so much sway over our elections have paywalls to read their articles!

Why not support your local newspaper. The Washington Post is excellent and a subscription is not very expensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Goulet is now saying his "secret plan" is to move Ellington to either UDC or IntellSat and reopen the Ellington building as Western High School. Which ignores the fact that DCPS doesn't own either site and they just spend $200 million to equip Ellington as a performing arts facility. To actually execute that plan would probably take a decade and cost half a billion dollars before it was done. At $50 million the MacArthur site is a bargain.

And if he thinks there's community opposition to the MacArthur site, just wait until the Ellington community and the Van Ness neighbors hear about this plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this criticism of the Post's editorial board is designed to deflect from the substance of the original post, i.e., that the far left political interests in DC are highly coordinated. And as far as "outsiders" pulling the strings---the far left in DC receives a great deal of support from national progressive groups because the city (like SF) is seen as a potential testing grounds for a lot of far left ideas (such as not prosecuting crime). Of course, all of us actual District residents are getting to experience how THAT idea is working out . . . .

If this is about the Frumin race, trying to paint Mary Cheh and Tricia Duncan as far left is... interesting. They might not be as to the right as Goulet, but Cheh has always been a more moderate member of the council, and Duncan would have continued her policies. This race is not about ideology (Bergmann and Duncan disagreed on a lot) but instead about preventing our elections from being bought by massive amounts of out-of-state money supported by organizations like WaPo, which are run by residents of MD and VA.

You are welcome to read the editorial for yourself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/15/washington-dc-democratic-primary-endorsements/

Not PP, but I cannot because I am not subscribed to the post! Really cool to have an organization that has so much sway over our elections have paywalls to read their articles!

Why not support your local newspaper. The Washington Post is excellent and a subscription is not very expensive.

Because of crap like this editorial!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Goulet is now saying his "secret plan" is to move Ellington to either UDC or IntellSat and reopen the Ellington building as Western High School. Which ignores the fact that DCPS doesn't own either site and they just spend $200 million to equip Ellington as a performing arts facility. To actually execute that plan would probably take a decade and cost half a billion dollars before it was done. At $50 million the MacArthur site is a bargain.

And if he thinks there's community opposition to the MacArthur site, just wait until the Ellington community and the Van Ness neighbors hear about this plan.

Where is he saying this? Is like every other post about Goulet? He supposedly told your neighbors friends cousin?

This is the type of astroturf crap that Jeff refuses to crack down on. It’s his site, but this is a bad look.

[Anonymous]

Of course not, but surely there are solutions. Other cities are taking steps. Acoustic cameras? Immediate enforcement at a stop? No refueling? Essentially if you drive into DC you know you could and most likely will lose the vehicle, and you won’t have fuel to get back home or race away from the police. At the same time, you know you will have a safe place to ride somewhere within the Beltway, even in DC, but not where people live.

Also. Licensing? Registration? Progressive fines? Trackers on vehicle in agreement with manufacturers? Can only purchase if signs that vehicle will be used where legal? Registration to purchase? Vehicle recognition cameras (not face, so if you are the owner, you get fines sent home)? Vehicle must stop if stopped by the police (I do, and I have been stopped many times for no reason)? Speed bumps, pedestrianized zones?
No reviving? Mufflers?

I just know they have ATVs in other cities and yet very few have this much of a problem. The extent of it is recent even though ATVs have been around. So something changed. What was that something? Does that something help?

These are unscientific ideas but there are sophisticated solutions if we really want to stop something. There are new legislations and policies in several cities so maybe there’s something good there. I know London had a problem with muscle cars and loudspeaker people transporters — maybe they found a solution?

I must ask though how many DC residents directly benefit from this activity vs. how many are directly adversely affected? How many of each are girls? What’s the delta? So, I’m convinced that the status quo is unfair and that action needs to be taken and swiftly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Yeah well, the number one issue on the minds of DC residents is murder and violent crime. What’s Frumin going to do about that?

I think schools are a more important issue in Ward 3 since we see very little crime, but I bet that public safety is an important issue as well. Frumin agrees that our police force needs to be expanded, but wants to couple it with reforms like switching to community policing (hiring officers to work in the neighborhoods they live in), which would build more trust between the police and the communities they serve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Goulet is now saying his "secret plan" is to move Ellington to either UDC or IntellSat and reopen the Ellington building as Western High School. Which ignores the fact that DCPS doesn't own either site and they just spend $200 million to equip Ellington as a performing arts facility. To actually execute that plan would probably take a decade and cost half a billion dollars before it was done. At $50 million the MacArthur site is a bargain.

And if he thinks there's community opposition to the MacArthur site, just wait until the Ellington community and the Van Ness neighbors hear about this plan.

Where is he saying this? Is like every other post about Goulet? He supposedly told your neighbors friends cousin?

This is the type of astroturf crap that Jeff refuses to crack down on. It’s his site, but this is a bad look.

I don’t understand why anyone thinks it’s fair to move Ellington. That’s a beautiful intentionally built to its purpose facility.
I’m willing to listen but this is very odd. We are lacking art facilities in so many schools. I’d agree to move Ellington only if they build a Sydney Opera type facility on the Wharf for these talented kids and make it even better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Yeah well, the number one issue on the minds of DC residents is murder and violent crime. What’s Frumin going to do about that?

I think schools are a more important issue in Ward 3 since we see very little crime, but I bet that public safety is an important issue as well. Frumin agrees that our police force needs to be expanded, but wants to couple it with reforms like switching to community policing (hiring officers to work in the neighborhoods they live in), which would build more trust between the police and the communities they serve.

And yet while schools are important to people with kids, that’s just a small portion of the electorate. The expected voters are strongly concerned about crime, as borne out in the polling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this criticism of the Post's editorial board is designed to deflect from the substance of the original post, i.e., that the far left political interests in DC are highly coordinated. And as far as "outsiders" pulling the strings---the far left in DC receives a great deal of support from national progressive groups because the city (like SF) is seen as a potential testing grounds for a lot of far left ideas (such as not prosecuting crime). Of course, all of us actual District residents are getting to experience how THAT idea is working out . . . .

If this is about the Frumin race, trying to paint Mary Cheh and Tricia Duncan as far left is... interesting. They might not be as to the right as Goulet, but Cheh has always been a more moderate member of the council, and Duncan would have continued her policies. This race is not about ideology (Bergmann and Duncan disagreed on a lot) but instead about preventing our elections from being bought by massive amounts of out-of-state money supported by organizations like WaPo, which are run by residents of MD and VA.

You are welcome to read the editorial for yourself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/15/washington-dc-democratic-primary-endorsements/

Not PP, but I cannot because I am not subscribed to the post! Really cool to have an organization that has so much sway over our elections have paywalls to read their articles!

Why not support your local newspaper. The Washington Post is excellent and a subscription is not very expensive.

Because of crap like this editorial!

BooHoo! The paper won’t cater to my every desire. What a childish way to live. I guess you prefer to get your news on DCUM? LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course not, but surely there are solutions. Other cities are taking steps. Acoustic cameras? Immediate enforcement at a stop? No refueling? Essentially if you drive into DC you know you could and most likely will lose the vehicle, and you won’t have fuel to get back home or race away from the police. At the same time, you know you will have a safe place to ride somewhere within the Beltway, even in DC, but not where people live.

Also. Licensing? Registration? Progressive fines? Trackers on vehicle in agreement with manufacturers? Can only purchase if signs that vehicle will be used where legal? Registration to purchase? Vehicle recognition cameras (not face, so if you are the owner, you get fines sent home)? Vehicle must stop if stopped by the police (I do, and I have been stopped many times for no reason)? Speed bumps, pedestrianized zones?
No reviving? Mufflers?

I just know they have ATVs in other cities and yet very few have this much of a problem. The extent of it is recent even though ATVs have been around. So something changed. What was that something? Does that something help?

These are unscientific ideas but there are sophisticated solutions if we really want to stop something. There are new legislations and policies in several cities so maybe there’s something good there. I know London had a problem with muscle cars and loudspeaker people transporters — maybe they found a solution?

I must ask though how many DC residents directly benefit from this activity vs. how many are directly adversely affected? How many of each are girls? What’s the delta? So, I’m convinced that the status quo is unfair and that action needs to be taken and swiftly.

Immediate stop gap. Block traffic to every major problem area to ensure 8 nights of sleep forcing either riding during work hours, where no one can see you, or where no one lives. I think you’ll have both a reduction in the activity immediately and a lot of solutions when enough voters get mad at gridlocks caused by a very small group of people, most of whom are not from DC. I would block every street they ride now which has certain amount of residences, like U Street. They capably blocked streets and directed Rolling Thunder for decades.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Goulet is now saying his "secret plan" is to move Ellington to either UDC or IntellSat and reopen the Ellington building as Western High School. Which ignores the fact that DCPS doesn't own either site and they just spend $200 million to equip Ellington as a performing arts facility. To actually execute that plan would probably take a decade and cost half a billion dollars before it was done. At $50 million the MacArthur site is a bargain.

And if he thinks there's community opposition to the MacArthur site, just wait until the Ellington community and the Van Ness neighbors hear about this plan.

Where is he saying this? Is like every other post about Goulet? He supposedly told your neighbors friends cousin?

This is the type of astroturf crap that Jeff refuses to crack down on. It’s his site, but this is a bad look.

You keep accusing others of astroturfing and me of condoning it. Yet, the issue is that you are simply uninformed about the candidate you support. Here are Goulet’s own words:

https://foxhall.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Special-Election-2022_FCCA_FINAL.pdf

I will use the one year delay to find another site for the new high school, or possibly, propose a better location for the Duke Ellington School of the Arts that is METRO accessible, and then propose to make Ellington a by-right school serving the residents of Ward 2 and southern Ward 3.

Given your fixation on astroturf, it is fair to ask whether your support is motivated less by Goulet’s positions — which you clearly don’t know — and more by DFER’s dollar signs.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For every person that got called a racist every time they complained about anything people didn’t like such as crime whether White or not, we are quickly devaluing that currency till it’s meaningless.

I go on facts and direct quotes from now on.

I agree. The Chamber of Commerce should release the video so that we can have the direct quote. What do you think the Chamber is covering up?

I don’t even know there’s a cover up? Could there be?

I would not even speculate, but if I were forced to, I’d guess it was some clumsy statement that was then reframed to cause faux outrage. Could be completely wrong. I don’t think anyone in the running is a known racist? I know some people said one candidate made anti-Semitic statements but I’d like to see quotes before I believe that too.

Overall, I’m not pleased with the level of discourse from any of the candidates. It’s at the playground level of you are… no you are… when there are serious issues to address.

If it was simply a clumsy statement or being misrepresented, the video would make this clear. The fact that the video is not being released suggests that the video is not exculpatory.

Also, you have referred to a statement by a Council Member about insulating houses. Do you have a direct quote of that or does your interest in direct quotes only go so far?

I know the board is on another topic so very briefly to say that the soundproofing standards proposal is DOA not just because it applies to new modern construction only, but relating to 1st hand experience in a completely modern building with soundproofing — doesn’t help, these are motocross meet concert dB levels, and even in a triple paned residence off the main drag, still can’t sleep at all through it or carry on a normal conversation.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say just one more thing. I would be far more concerned with money flows if I didn’t acutely feel the problems people list on this board. I am at the point where I will vote for anyone with the courage to solve them FAST. I will not vote for anyone who advocates that we need to study the issue that has been demonstrated and has a solution, and used for be better, for another undetermined period of time. I don’t like where I am but there we have it.

I agree with you here. One of my issues is schools in Ward 3, and we're facing the same problem with being told we need to study the issue more and find a better spot for new schools. We can open the old GDS campus immediately and alleviate the overcrowding issues at Wilson, as is in the mayor's plan. Goulet has promised that he will obstruct that and look for "better options" which show no signs of appearing anytime soon.

Goulet is now saying his "secret plan" is to move Ellington to either UDC or IntellSat and reopen the Ellington building as Western High School. Which ignores the fact that DCPS doesn't own either site and they just spend $200 million to equip Ellington as a performing arts facility. To actually execute that plan would probably take a decade and cost half a billion dollars before it was done. At $50 million the MacArthur site is a bargain.

And if he thinks there's community opposition to the MacArthur site, just wait until the Ellington community and the Van Ness neighbors hear about this plan.

Where is he saying this? Is like every other post about Goulet? He supposedly told your neighbors friends cousin?

This is the type of astroturf crap that Jeff refuses to crack down on. It’s his site, but this is a bad look.

You keep accusing others of astroturfing and me of condoning it. Yet, the issue is that you are simply uninformed about the candidate you support. Here are Goulet’s own words:

https://foxhall.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Special-Election-2022_FCCA_FINAL.pdf

I will use the one year delay to find another site for the new high school, or possibly, propose a better location for the Duke Ellington School of the Arts that is METRO accessible, and then propose to make Ellington a by-right school serving the residents of Ward 2 and southern Ward 3.

Given your fixation on astroturf, it is fair to ask whether your support is motivated less by Goulet’s positions — which you clearly don’t know — and more by DFER’s dollar signs.

Since you are defending the post, where is the his “secret plan” to move Ellington to UDC or Intelsat?

There is no secret that he proposed moving Ellington. Show me the “secret plan” involving UDC or Intelsat.