My hot take - if you own an AR-15 you have a few loose screws

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Anonymous wrote:If you own any assault rifle you have a small penis.

Gun nuts suck ass, but making jokes or insults about penis size is not okay. It is body shaming.

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny that you think banning AR-15s would make any difference.

What's funny about this? I find none of this funny. Especially a few days after nineteen 4th graders got murdered with one.

Because there are far more powerful rifles and shotguns that can easily be purchased. The shooter would have used something else.

The more powerful rifles and shotguns are difficult to fire accurately AND rapidly. Much greater recoil means that the shooter has difficulty landing the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc shots on moving targets. In the case of a school shooting, this may provide essential seconds to move out of the line of fire, flee, or physically restrain the assailant.

AR-15s are so deadly because they allow you to mow down everything in front of you in a matter of seconds. They also have larger magazines that more powerful hunting rifles and shotguns require frequent reloads.

In a massacre, the gunman doesn't want raw power; he wants the sweet spot of speed AND accuracy AND power. This is why the AR-15 type is so deadly and absolutely should be banned from civilian ownership.

You clearly know almost nothing about firearms.

DP.. what did PP get wrong?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/america-s-rifle-why-so-many-people-love-ar-15-n831171

AR15 is high powered and has high precision. That's why the owners like it. But, it also causes a lot of damage to the victim.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny. People here don’t even know what a AR-15 is and can’t define it. Yet want to try to tell others what they’re crazy for owning.

And I don’t own a gun fyi.

So please, educate us instead of insulting. What is it and why would someone want one?

It's not up to you to decide what others should or should not one. All you are showing is fake outrage. What do you plan to do about it? Nothing, right? Other than coming here and telling people how righteous you are.

Why would someone's outrage about little kids getting gunned down at school be fake? Righteous? Yes, trying to reduce needless murder of kids is righteous. Let me guess, you think it's "virtue signaling". Or perhaps some people actually want a safe and peaceful society.

That's nice. But at the end of the day, what are you going to do to change? I bet all my money that you will do nothing (other than posting here). You are mad, I am mad but being mad gets you nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree or disagree? It's not a good gun for hunting - you'll disintegrate the trophy or meat. It's actually pretty terrible for home defense, as the the firearm is 4x more powerful than a 9mm handgun and will go through multiple walls and potentially hit your family.

So that really comes down to two reasons: (1) you intend to massacre a group of people as quickly and efficiently as possible or (2) because you LARP as an "operator" and somehow that gives you a sense of self-worth and confidence.

There's no reason to own this fire arm, unless you're a bit of a nutcase.

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“Not good for hunting.” Depends on the game. The 5.56x45 cartridge is considered a “varmint” round, typically used to get rid of prairie dogs and the like. It is ordinarily viewed as inadequate for deer or larger animals. It does OK against feral swine.

“Disintegrate the trophy or meat.” You’ve been watching too many movies. They’re bullets, not hand grenades.

“the firearm is 4x more powerful than a 9mm handgun and will go through multiple walls and potentially hit your family.”. I don’t know how you’re measuring “power,” but a 5.56 round actually is less likely than a 9mm to penetrate drywall and framing; if you’re “potentially hitting your family” you’re violating Safety Rule no. 4: “be sure of your target and what’s beyond it.”

“Assault rifle.” An AR15 lacks fully automatic capability. It cannot, by any definition, be an “assault weapon.” It is no different in operation than numerous other rifles, many if not most of them predating WWII. It just “looks scary.”

Target shooting is a sport. It is difficult. It requires study, training, practice and self-discipline. The AR15 is the gun of choice for “high power” and “service rifle” competition, where people challenge themselves to place those tiny little bullets precisely at distances up to 600 yards, without (until recently) any optical aids — only “iron sights.”

Self defense is a natural right. The right to self defense Carrie’s with it the right to the efficacious means of self defense.

Instead of blaming inanimate objects you know nothing about, and disparaging people with interests (and self discipline) you do not share, why don’t you ask yourself (1) why are these shootings occurring now, when guns are heavily regulated, instead of in the past, when a person could buy a gun cash and carry at the local K-Mart with no regulation or records; (2) why, after too many such events, schools are still sitting ducks for demented, evil, sick people — other places are secure; why aren’t schools; (3) why are there so many demented, evil, sick people who think it’s appropriate or desirable to do such things — what is making them that way; (4) why are the perpetrators of these things not being identified in advance — in the vast majority of cases their crimes surprise no one who knew them.

I disagree that guns are heavily regulated.
1. Full blown radicalization taking place at unprecedented levels.
2. Why indeed aren’t all schools equally secure? We all know the answer to that question. Money.
3. See #1
4. What use is identifying them? The Rs lifted the ban on guns for people with mental health issues.
I would add to your questions- 5. Why do we hobbies requiring study , practice and discipline that also can result in the mass murder of elementary school kids and grocery store shoppers? Why is THAT such a vital hobby to you? It’s the hobbyists who create the demand for the supply. Every gun starts out legal until it’s not or used in a crime. Why have a hobby that funnels these weapons into our commerce and then illegal sales market?

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny that you think banning AR-15s would make any difference.

Another proud voice from the Ammosexual Community. Welcome, sir!

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In reading the news reports, the bad guy could have been in the classroom with a baseball bat and a fake gun and done as much damage because the cops refused to enter for an hour.

So much for Texans being tough and all that. What a terrible fiasco for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote: right to the efficacious means of self defense.

Instead of blaming inanimate objects you know nothing about, and disparaging people with interests (and self discipline) you do not share, why don’t you ask yourself (1) why are these shootings occurring now, when guns are heavily regulated, instead of in the past, when a person could buy a gun cash and carry at the local K-Mart with no regulation or records; (2) why, after too many such events, schools are still sitting ducks for demented, evil, sick people — other places are secure; why aren’t schools; (3) why are there so many demented, evil, sick people who think it’s appropriate or desirable to do such things — what is making them that way; (4) why are the perpetrators of these things not being identified in advance — in the vast majority of cases their crimes surprise no one who knew them.

Even more reason to ban them now since Rs can't control it and don't want to prevent mentally ill from buying guns. Clearly, there are too many young men who can't control themselves, so we need to control the inanimate object. That's much easier to control than humans.

[Anonymous]

The right to self defense Carrie’s with it the right to the efficacious means of self defense.

"efficacious".... and Carrie's. #RepublicanWisdom

[Anonymous]

Meh.

Mostly police and ex-military buy them. Those guys are all trained. NBD.

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Anonymous wrote:In reading the news reports, the bad guy could have been in the classroom with a baseball bat and a fake gun and done as much damage because the cops refused to enter for an hour.

So much for Texans being tough and all that. What a terrible fiasco for everyone.

absolutely not. Damage from AR15 is horrific, way worse than a normal handgun, a knife or baseball bat. Ask doctors who have treated AR15 victims.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Republican and a Trump voter and I agree with you 100% OP. There is no reason these things should exist in the hands of civilian, everyday people. PP's analogy to owning a personal stock of nuclear weapons or grenades is a good one.

PS - I believe that we should start holding the gun manufacturers more responsible.

So long as you vote Republican, you are complicit in evil. They are the ones accepting NRA money. You are putting them in office. Period.

Agree. All your protestations now won't wash the blood of those dead children off of your hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's funny that you think banning AR-15s would make any difference.

Ok. Let’s do it and see what happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In reading the news reports, the bad guy could have been in the classroom with a baseball bat and a fake gun and done as much damage because the cops refused to enter for an hour.

So much for Texans being tough and all that. What a terrible fiasco for everyone.

absolutely not. Damage from AR15 is horrific, way worse than a normal handgun, a knife or baseball bat. Ask doctors who have treated AR15 victims.

I mean to say that the 18 year old could have killed those all kids with a bat (or a knife or a shotgun or literally anything else), as well as those two women, because he had all the time in the world to do it. I'm not saying don't ban AR-15's because I don't care for guns. I'm saying that he had all the time in the world because the police didn't intervene.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In reading the news reports, the bad guy could have been in the classroom with a baseball bat and a fake gun and done as much damage because the cops refused to enter for an hour.

So much for Texans being tough and all that. What a terrible fiasco for everyone.

absolutely not. Damage from AR15 is horrific, way worse than a normal handgun, a knife or baseball bat. Ask doctors who have treated AR15 victims.

What a dumb response. Dead is dead.

The issue is: the police waited outside. Try to keep up; I know it’s hard for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree or disagree? It's not a good gun for hunting - you'll disintegrate the trophy or meat. It's actually pretty terrible for home defense, as the the firearm is 4x more powerful than a 9mm handgun and will go through multiple walls and potentially hit your family.

So that really comes down to two reasons: (1) you intend to massacre a group of people as quickly and efficiently as possible or (2) because you LARP as an "operator" and somehow that gives you a sense of self-worth and confidence.

There's no reason to own this fire arm, unless you're a bit of a nutcase.

The. End.

“Not good for hunting.” Depends on the game. The 5.56x45 cartridge is considered a “varmint” round, typically used to get rid of prairie dogs and the like. It is ordinarily viewed as inadequate for deer or larger animals. It does OK against feral swine.

“Disintegrate the trophy or meat.” You’ve been watching too many movies. They’re bullets, not hand grenades.

“the firearm is 4x more powerful than a 9mm handgun and will go through multiple walls and potentially hit your family.”. I don’t know how you’re measuring “power,” but a 5.56 round actually is less likely than a 9mm to penetrate drywall and framing; if you’re “potentially hitting your family” you’re violating Safety Rule no. 4: “be sure of your target and what’s beyond it.”

“Assault rifle.” An AR15 lacks fully automatic capability. It cannot, by any definition, be an “assault weapon.” It is no different in operation than numerous other rifles, many if not most of them predating WWII. It just “looks scary.”

Target shooting is a sport. It is difficult. It requires study, training, practice and self-discipline. The AR15 is the gun of choice for “high power” and “service rifle” competition, where people challenge themselves to place those tiny little bullets precisely at distances up to 600 yards, without (until recently) any optical aids — only “iron sights.”

Self defense is a natural right. The right to self defense Carrie’s with it the right to the efficacious means of self defense.

Instead of blaming inanimate objects you know nothing about, and disparaging people with interests (and self discipline) you do not share, why don’t you ask yourself (1) why are these shootings occurring now, when guns are heavily regulated, instead of in the past, when a person could buy a gun cash and carry at the local K-Mart with no regulation or records; (2) why, after too many such events, schools are still sitting ducks for demented, evil, sick people — other places are secure; why aren’t schools; (3) why are there so many demented, evil, sick people who think it’s appropriate or desirable to do such things — what is making them that way; (4) why are the perpetrators of these things not being identified in advance — in the vast majority of cases their crimes surprise no one who knew them.

I disagree that guns are heavily regulated.
1. Full blown radicalization taking place at unprecedented levels.
2. Why indeed aren’t all schools equally secure? We all know the answer to that question. Money.
3. See #1
4. What use is identifying them? The Rs lifted the ban on guns for people with mental health issues.
I would add to your questions- 5. Why do we hobbies requiring study , practice and discipline that also can result in the mass murder of elementary school kids and grocery store shoppers? Why is THAT such a vital hobby to you? It’s the hobbyists who create the demand for the supply. Every gun starts out legal until it’s not or used in a crime. Why have a hobby that funnels these weapons into our commerce and then illegal sales market?

NP - Actually it is an assault weapon, by definition under the law. And during the years that assault weapons were banned, gun deaths were significantly lower. And Safety Rule #4 implies training - that implies regulating ownership. Ok, let's do that also.