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Thanks, PP. I appreciate your candor and integrity. My late FIL was a cop for decades and horrified about the rise of individual citizens owning ARs. To the PP who thinks it’s “not for us to judge” - of course it’s for us to judge. It’s called having good judgment. It’s also abundantly clear that good judgment is something gun nuts lack. Hell, look at the cops in Uvalde—cowards to the core. |
BS. Use your brain. Take a stand. Slavery and Jim Crow laws were also legal at one point. Germany in the 1930s made it legal to terrorize Jews. Just because something is legal doesn't make it moral. And you should make a judgment - those things are wrong. |
Maybe this can help with military recruitment. “Be a real soldier. Don’t play around.” |
So your sole criteria for judging something is whether it's legal or not? That's asinine. If your spouse cheats on you, that's not illegal - but it wouldn't be for you to judge? If someone lets their 7 yo eat only potato chips and starburst, you wouldn't have any thoughts on the matter? If someone walks around Minneapolis in the winter wearing only a pair of boxers, you wouldn't think they were just a little off? |
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I am a Republican and a Trump voter and I agree with you 100% OP. There is no reason these things should exist in the hands of civilian, everyday people. PP's analogy to owning a personal stock of nuclear weapons or grenades is a good one.
PS - I believe that we should start holding the gun manufacturers more responsible. |
DP... I get that most people aren't one issue voters, but the R party has just gone of the deepend in many ways, and gun control, especially wrt assault rifles, is one of them. Even the Bushes have turned their backs on the NRA. -former R |
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It's worse than being nuts. They're just easily led. AR-15s are top sellers because they make people who can't shoot well feel like they can shoot well, people who need a sense of identity feel like they are "one of us", people who live in fear feel like they're powerful.
Owning an AR-15 is just a sign of a mark. |
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I know three people who own one or more ARs.
An auto executive A biglaw attorney A prosecutor (ex-military) Most people would not guess that they own semi-auto guns. |
You’re welcome
It’s interesting to me. Murderers aside, the men I know who were the biggest fanatics were also the biggest bullies….but also the biggest wusses. Like last year I was in a store and a guy with gun everything, gun shirt, gun hat, 2nd amendment pin, started bullying a young female employee because she told him he needed a mask. He was very clearly intimidating her and she looked terrified. I stepped in, told him to knock it off, and when he protested asked if he wanted to take it outside. He immediately backed down and put his mask on (a MAGA mask, of course). And I’m a fairly small, middle aged lady. I think a lot of it stems from insecurity. They’re in a hyper masculine subculture and need to prove they’re tough and scary, or other people might say words that hurt their feelings. Or another example, my cousin who is a big gun nut wanted to be a Navy SEAL. He got into a military academy but it was too hard and he quickly dropped out. So to feel tough like a SEAL, he’s super into guns, rather than, I dunno, just enlisting like anyone else would. But combat is too scary for him. |
Why do they own them? |
| IMO, people who own them do so because of self esteem issues -- it's a power trip. Kind of like that picture of Trump in a fire truck. They like to feel "powerful". It's scary to have people with that kind of self esteem own such a powerful weapon. That's why even some of Trump's own people were scared that he had access to nukes. |
Wouldn’t surprise me if these successful individuals also scored high on the psychopathy scale. They have all this professional and monetary success, yet feel the need to add an AR15 to their life? There’s something missing inside of them. |
Why do you say that? And why indicate their professions? Not one of those screams “not into AR-15s.” |
So, what are you going to do about it? |
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This is a true story of having a gun for protection.
My old neighbor at the time 38 year old police officer with a wife and two very young kids woke up his house was being broken into. He obviously has a gun at home in safe. He called 911 and two officers came. I asked him why didn’t he go down, He said I am in pajamas I have a wife and two kids home. You never approached a criminal head on as it forces then to shoot or attack. Best case two dead bodies in house. More likely I shot one or would two I lose gun in close range and they kill me and family. Instead cops in full vests got them from behind they had choice turn around get shot or run. They ran cops caught up down the road on a safer place to capture. Gun battles in your home with kids make no sense |