alley cat question

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone share what a tnr is? The person frothing about that is being confusing and seems to think there is an agenda involved with respondents.

Trap-neuter-release. Generally promoted as a non-lethal solution for feral cats. Usually cats are vaccinated when they are trapped and ear tip is cut to mark them. I don't have any opinion one way or the other about it, but the direction this discussion has gone in is not useful to the OP or anyone really.

TNR has been shown not to work. You need to vaccinate 80% or more of the cats to see any reduction in population, and that’s almost impossible to reach. TNR advocates like to cite the 1-2 examples where it worked, but those are a tiny minority.

Usually TNR colonies just continue to grow.

Meanwhile, TNR is environmentally disastrous and annoying to the neighbors. It’s not a solution.

+100. Whoever is pushing TNR needs to stop. TNR is totally inhumane to the billion + mammals and birds these cats kill every year. It’s an ecological nightmare and totally indefensible.

For the same reason, OP’s neighbor needs to stop feeding feral cats. That’s the only neighborly solution.

Which means….have a conversation with your neighbor.

And if the neighbor says no? Get a trespass notice against her?

Then you’d prob need to call animal control. And likely spray the hose. Is it fair? No. But it might be the only step you can take. It works in time.

Animal control will laugh at you and say it's the cycle of life ma'am.
Animal control administers the TNR program.

Very few localities have laws protecting feral cats. But if you don’t give people a choice, they will start poisoning them—do you really want to go there?

[Anonymous]

The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could someone share what a tnr is? The person frothing about that is being confusing and seems to think there is an agenda involved with respondents.

Trap-neuter-release. Generally promoted as a non-lethal solution for feral cats. Usually cats are vaccinated when they are trapped and ear tip is cut to mark them. I don't have any opinion one way or the other about it, but the direction this discussion has gone in is not useful to the OP or anyone really.

TNR has been shown not to work. You need to vaccinate 80% or more of the cats to see any reduction in population, and that’s almost impossible to reach. TNR advocates like to cite the 1-2 examples where it worked, but those are a tiny minority.

Usually TNR colonies just continue to grow.

Meanwhile, TNR is environmentally disastrous and annoying to the neighbors. It’s not a solution.

+100. Whoever is pushing TNR needs to stop. TNR is totally inhumane to the billion + mammals and birds these cats kill every year. It’s an ecological nightmare and totally indefensible.

For the same reason, OP’s neighbor needs to stop feeding feral cats. That’s the only neighborly solution.

Which means….have a conversation with your neighbor.

And if the neighbor says no? Get a trespass notice against her?

Then you’d prob need to call animal control. And likely spray the hose. Is it fair? No. But it might be the only step you can take. It works in time.

Animal control will laugh at you and say it's the cycle of life ma'am.
Animal control administers the TNR program.

Very few localities have laws protecting feral cats. But if you don’t give people a choice, they will start poisoning them—do you really want to go there?

If people want to stoop so low, then that is where they will go. What lessons are they teaching their children? Killing a living thing isn't easy and it affects the killer as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could someone share what a tnr is? The person frothing about that is being confusing and seems to think there is an agenda involved with respondents.

Trap-neuter-release. Generally promoted as a non-lethal solution for feral cats. Usually cats are vaccinated when they are trapped and ear tip is cut to mark them. I don't have any opinion one way or the other about it, but the direction this discussion has gone in is not useful to the OP or anyone really.

TNR has been shown not to work. You need to vaccinate 80% or more of the cats to see any reduction in population, and that’s almost impossible to reach. TNR advocates like to cite the 1-2 examples where it worked, but those are a tiny minority.

Usually TNR colonies just continue to grow.

Meanwhile, TNR is environmentally disastrous and annoying to the neighbors. It’s not a solution.

+100. Whoever is pushing TNR needs to stop. TNR is totally inhumane to the billion + mammals and birds these cats kill every year. It’s an ecological nightmare and totally indefensible.

For the same reason, OP’s neighbor needs to stop feeding feral cats. That’s the only neighborly solution.

Which means….have a conversation with your neighbor.

And if the neighbor says no? Get a trespass notice against her?

Then you’d prob need to call animal control. And likely spray the hose. Is it fair? No. But it might be the only step you can take. It works in time.

Animal control will laugh at you and say it's the cycle of life ma'am.
Animal control administers the TNR program.

Very few localities have laws protecting feral cats. But if you don’t give people a choice, they will start poisoning them—do you really want to go there?

If people want to stoop so low, then that is where they will go. What lessons are they teaching their children? Killing a living thing isn't easy and it affects the killer as well.

Doesn’t sound worse than teaching your children to support something that hurts your neighbors and is ecologically devastating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying. You’re freaking out on the Internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

There are several of us here who think outdoor cats are wrong, for different reasons. You’ve been arguing with everybody. What’s wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying. You’re freaking out on the Internet.

Way to represent crazy cat ladies, by being a manipulative liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

There are several of us here who think outdoor cats are wrong, for different reasons. You’ve been arguing with everybody. What’s wrong with you?

I really just don’t understand why someone is having these manifestoes. I don’t care whether cat is outside or not. I’m not arguing for or against it. I find it fascinating how frothy this person is. But the truth is there not helping out here and it’s a weird venue to go off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying. You’re freaking out on the Internet.

Way to represent crazy cat ladies, by being a manipulative liar.

I neither have a cat nor feed cats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying. You’re freaking out on the Internet.

Way to represent crazy cat ladies, by being a manipulative liar.

I neither have a cat nor feed cats.

Why are you claiming “nobody is arguing for” outdoor cats then? That’s simply not true, read the last six pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The arrogance of TNR advocates here is astounding. “I’m going to feed feral cats and if they poop in your yard and create all kinds of health hazards, well there’s nothing you can do about it, haha.”

No one is advocating for this. What is wrong with you?

What’s wrong with you. You’ve spent five pages trying to justify cats pooping in peoples’ yards, spreading scary diseases, and killing the native wildlife. And then you just wrote, basically, “Nyah, nyah, you can try calling animal control but they work for me and my TNR group.” Oh, and if it bothers you, spend your own money on automatic sprayers and wolf piss.

Ugh.

No one is arguing with you. This is bizarre

You’ve been arguing for six pages, ignoring uncomfortable facts like the schizophrenia link and wildlife impacts and basically telling anyone who objects to deal with it on their own. Pretty much the definition of morally bankrupt.

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying. You’re freaking out on the Internet.

Way to represent crazy cat ladies, by being a manipulative liar.

I neither have a cat nor feed cats.

Why are you here? To provoke people?